lol yes,...20+ hour days are starting to be the "norm" now,..lol. I think my body is just used to it, that it tends to think that's normal,..so it keeps on going.
But yes, thanks. Will try not work too late,..lol And hopefully something in there may shed some light. Will post back if I turn up something else in my travels. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Macintosh** On 15/02/2012, at 1:31 AM, Julie Bedford wrote: > Thanks Daniel, > > You really are a night owl - I'll have a look at your suggestions > tomorrow, as my eyes too are shrinking. > > Don't work too late > > Cheers > Jewels > > On 15/02/2012, at 1:25 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote: > >> Hi Jewels >> >> Yes, saw that come in after my forward of the other one. Wasn't sure >> if you'd seen it, so just in case,.. All good. >> After flicking over a few more forum posts, I would think yes it has >> to do with 10.5.8 and the mapping of the keyboard versus the "new >> keyboard" layout. >> From some of the posts here, it seems to suggest similar things. >> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3233475?start=0&tstart=0> >> <http://www.motherboardpoint.com/re-aluminum-keyboard-screwy-mapping-t233096.html >> >>> >> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3365609?start=0&tstart=0> >> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3440453?start=0&tstart=0> >> They do seem to suggest that on some machines with Leopard (10.5.8) >> the key mapping doesn't always "match" and gives differing results. >> >> One solution was to download a free program called Spark and remap >> the keys >> <http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14352/spark> >> (Amongst other programs, plus that one does more as well) >> >> Apparently when the machine was upgraded to 10.6.8 the keyboard did >> what it was meant to do in relation to the keys. >> >> So, not sure if that really helps or "solves" the problem as such, >> but gives a bit more idea. >> I would have read more, but the eyes are tiring after a long day and >> I'll start seeing double soon...lol. >> Better finish the other work, before I fall asleep at the >> desk,...lol. Then Ronni will tell me off :) LOL. >> >> Kind regards >> Daniel >> --- >> Daniel Kerr >> MacWizardry >> >> Phone: 0414 795 960 >> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >> >> >> **For everything Macintosh** >> >> On 15/02/2012, at 1:11 AM, Julie Bedford wrote: >> >>> Hi Daniel, >>> >>> I was just answering all the help emails I had received, you should >>> have received my reply by now? >>> >>> CHeers >>> Jewels >>> On 15/02/2012, at 1:00 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >>> >>>> hi Jewels >>>> >>>> You may not have seen my post in regards to this as well, so have >>>> reposted it again, below. >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Daniel >>>> --- >>>> Daniel Kerr >>>> MacWizardry >>>> >>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> **For everything Macintosh** >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> Subject: Re: Shift Key Problems >>>>> Date: 9 February 2012 12:34:02 AM AWST >>>>> To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>>> Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jewels >>>>> >>>>> I'd try the keyboard on another machine and see if it does the same >>>>> thing (either running 10.5.8 or later OS). If it does, then yes >>>>> could be something with the keyboard. If it doesn't then it means >>>>> it's something more software related. >>>>> What machine is it running on? >>>>> Do you have any other System Preferences loaded (eg something like >>>>> USB Overdrive, Logitech Controller or Microsoft Mouse or something >>>>> like that). (Would normally appear under "Others" in System >>>>> Preferences. >>>>> >>>>> The "old" F12 to eject from the Keyboard came from the days when >>>>> the keyboard didn't have eject, so it would override with the F12 >>>>> key to do that. So just wondering if something is "holding that >>>>> setting". >>>>> >>>>> What was the keyboard for the new one? Was it one of the small >>>>> little ones, sort of like the current Wireless ones? (well size >>>>> wise I mean) :o) >>>>> >>>>> There were a couple of other things to try, but I don't have it in >>>>> front me at the moment so will look up later. But see how you go >>>>> with the above first. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, in System Preferences - Keyboard then Keyboard Shortcuts you >>>>> could click "Restore Defaults" (incase something in there is >>>>> holding it over). If you've set your own Keyboard settings, they'll >>>>> need to be redone as well). >>>>> >>>>> (I booted off a laptop I'm working on at the moment from a USB >>>>> 10.5.8) and plugged in a Keyboard and the keys worked as they >>>>> should (F10 muted the sound, F11 turned the Sound down, F12 turned >>>>> the sound up) >>>>> >>>>> I'd say PRAM reset, but from memory that doesn't do much for the >>>>> keyboard,...lol >>>>> >>>>> I also had a feeling that some certain hardware with 10.5.8 didn't >>>>> know how to read the "new" keyboards correctly. Just trying to find >>>>> where I had read that, or came across it with a machine I'd once >>>>> worked on.....many moons again,...lol >>>>> >>>>> Also have a look in Users/yourname/LibraryKeyboard Layouts. Do you >>>>> have anything files or anything in there? >>>>> >>>>> Let us know how you go, and I'll keep racking my brain while fixing >>>>> a laptop for a client... ;) >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>> MacWizardry >>>>> >>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **For everything Macintosh** >>>>> >>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 10:18 PM, Julie Bedford wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> Its definitely an apple keyboard, with the figures extension on >>>>>> the >>>>>> side. >>>>>> Using OS 10.5.8 - is it possible for the keyboard to be >>>>>> questionable ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jewels >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 7:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Jewels, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have just assumed you are using an Apple Keyboard? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The behaviour you are experiencing is making me think you are NOT >>>>>>> using an Apple Keyboard. >>>>>>> Many third-party Non-Apple keyboards assign the eject function to >>>>>>> the "F12" key. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 6:46 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ronni & Neil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've ticked all all boxes under Keyboard Shortcuts, with the >>>>>>>> Keyboard >>>>>>>> - Use All F1, F2 etc ticked, then tried the same with the Use >>>>>>>> All F1, >>>>>>>> F2 unticked - still no luck >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also have followed Neil's instructions - still no luck. Tried >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the fn and F12 keys and the dvd ejects, tried again just F12 and >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> dvd draw ejects again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Jewels >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Jewels, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You are in Leopard, so check also in System Preferences > >>>>>>>>> Exposé & >>>>>>>>> Spaces >>>>>>>>> Exposé … Show Desktop F11 >>>>>>>>> Dashboard … Hide & Show F12 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 4:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Jewels, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In System Preferences > Keyboard select (✔) Use all F1, F2, >>>>>>>>>> etc >>>>>>>>>> keys as standard functions keys >>>>>>>>>> The in System Preferences > Keyboard - Keyboard Shortcuts >>>>>>>>>> select >>>>>>>>>> (✔) all the keys. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 4:19 PM, Julie Bedford wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm really grateful you give up your time to assist us all >>>>>>>>>>> - so >>>>>>>>>>> thank >>>>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tried F11 & F12 together with the FN key, still the same. so >>>>>>>>>>> went into the Keyboard Shortcuts and unticked F11 &F12 and >>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>> they do >>>>>>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I've probably completely misunderstood you ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Don't worry if you are busy right now, I'm sure I can survive >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>> Jewels >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 4:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry Jewels, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I’m rushing & doing too many things at once today & >>>>>>>>>>>> haven’t >>>>>>>>>>>> given >>>>>>>>>>>> you the full details :-( >>>>>>>>>>>> System Preferences > Keyboard - Keyboard Shortcuts >>>>>>>>>>>> You will notice the key you have been pressing on the >>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard is >>>>>>>>>>>> probably set to ‘Show Desktop’ or ‘Hide Open >>>>>>>>>>>> Windows’ >>>>>>>>>>>> which pushes >>>>>>>>>>>> all open windows to the side and just shows your desktop. >>>>>>>>>>>> Just >>>>>>>>>>>> press >>>>>>>>>>>> it again for all your windows to come back. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To use that key to change your sound you need to press the >>>>>>>>>>>> fn key >>>>>>>>>>>> and F12 key. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing wrong with your new Keyboard. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 3:31 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jewels, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you in Lion or Snow Leopard? >>>>>>>>>>>>> The volume keys (& all the top keys) are Function keys. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Check in System Preferences > Keyboard to see what F12 is >>>>>>>>>>>>> set to >>>>>>>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 1:30 PM, Julie Bedford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this has any relation, but I purchased a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>>>>>>>> week and now find that when I turn the sound volume up or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> down on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard, all I get is shifting to the side of whatever is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my desktop. 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