Hi Alan,

These are just my "thoughts" on how I would first try to do this - I am far
from an iTunes expert so I can't say that it would necessarily work ;o)

As you know iTunes normally creates Artist folders and album folders you can
see in Finder. My experience has been that if you change the artist or Album
Tags for an album then iTunes will change the folders accordingly. So I
would try and get to the point of being able to edit the tags in iTunes.

I'm a little confused by one aspect of your post - on one hand you say:

> The problem is how to REMOVE them from the unnamed iTunesU
> collection as they don't display in iTunes or Finder.

But then you say:

> 1. I deleted the three incorrectly tagged movies from the external Firewire
> drive.
> 2. I deleted the full movie copy and its parent folder "Unknown iTunes U"
> located under the normal "iTunes U" folder in iTunes Media.

So how are you deleting them if you can't see them in Finder?

Anyway, if you can "see" the movie files to delete them you should be able
to "see" them to add them to the iTunes library?

Since they are not currently showing in your iTunes library (because of the
incorrect tagging) my first approach would be to use the iTunes "add to
library" command and then navigate to where the movies are (you must know
this or how could you delete them?) Onve you have added them, then you can
edit the tags in itunes to get the result you want regarding organisation.

Another alternative would be to select the movie file (again you must be
able to select them to delete them?) and then right-click and use the "open
with" to open the file in iTunes - then edit the Tags in iTunes.

Or am I missing something? - quite possible ;o)


Cheers



Neil
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Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com






on 26/4/12 1:12 AM, Alan Smith at sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

> Hi Ronni
> 
> This summarises the problem and action taken.     iTunes "should" have
> pointers to two movies in an external drive plus a full copy of a third movie
> in the iTunesU library.  These movies could not be located in the iTunes app
> because I tagged them incorrectly.  They display in the Apple TV menu so they
> are in iTunes somewhere.   I deleted some files/folders via Finder associated
> with the full copy movie but am concerned that iTunes still has links
> internally. 
> 
> I would like some guidance on proposed steps 5 to 7 below.
> 
> 1. I deleted the three incorrectly tagged movies from the external Firewire
> drive.
> 2. I deleted the full movie copy and its parent folder "Unknown iTunes U"
> located under the normal "iTunes U" folder in iTunes Media.
> 3. I re-installed one movie and option-copied it to iTunes (and successfully
> re-tagged it as an iTunesU file).
> 4. iTunes app shut down and re-started.  Apple TV still lists the three
> (deleted) movies in its iTunesU menu.
> 5. Tomorrow I propose re-installing two iTunes database files from Time
> Machine on the premise that link data to external files has to be stored
> somewhere.  Files are "iTunes Library.itl" and "iTunes Library Extras.itdb".
> The time shown in the date-modified field corresponds to the time I copied the
> movies.
> 6.  A third iTunes database file "iTunes Music Library.xml" does not seem to
> exist in Time Machine.  The time shown in the date-modified field corresponds
> to the time I copied the movies.   Absence in T.M. is a worry!
> 7.  I have closed and restarted the iTunes app during the above steps but have
> not done done a full power shut down of the iMac or Apple TV.  Will do this
> before trying the (partial) T.M. restore.   Way too late to do it tonight.
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
> On 25/04/2012, at 4:47 PM, Alan Smith wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> As explained, I keep special movies in the iTunesU category.  This is a
> parallel level to "Movies" (or "TV Shows") categories.  It works well- when
> properly tagged.    The problem is how to REMOVE them from the unnamed iTunesU
> collection as they don't display in iTunes or Finder.  I understand the
> structure and tagging of the Movie and TV categories.   Just to terrify you a
> little - I also have one group of movies I keep in the Podcast category, but
> nothing to do with the current problem!
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
> 
> On 25/04/2012, at 4:31 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Under Library in iTunes, the movies should show in ³Movies² not iTunesU
> shouldn¹t they?
> Perhaps that is why you are receiving ³unknown iTunesU structure² in iTunes.
> 
> All my iMovie or iPhoto slideshow movies & other movies, show in Movies in
> iTunes and in Finder are located:
> /Users/ronni/Music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Movies/xxxxx
> 
> Movies generally just need the Title tag, and TV shows need Show, Season
> Number, and Episode Number tags to keep them grouped together.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 ³Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> On 25/04/2012, at 3:02 PM, Alan Smith wrote:
> 
>> Using iMac with OS X 10.6.8 and iTunes 10.6.1.
>> 
>> I made a mistake while editing tags on 3 movies and now they are invisible in
>> iTunes to both eyeballing and spotlight searching.
>> 
>> Movies were created in iMovie and exported to an external Firewire drive.  I
>> normally Option-Copy links into iTunes so movies can be viewed on Apple TV
>> without creating a physical copy of the movie.   Copied movies appear by
>> default in the Films library of iTunes.  For this type of movie I change tags
>> and classify the Media Kind  as iTunesU.   My mistake was to leave the Album
>> tag blank, which I think is used to name the Collection field within iTunesU.
>> 
>> iTunes tag data seems to have been written back to the real file on the
>> Firewire drive.  I can't re-do the links as iTunes ignores the file as if it
>> already exists.   No file path data shows in Finder for these linked movies.
>> I copied a physical file into iTunes, but this is invisible too.   However
>> the physical file reveals a path in Finder ... ~/music /itunes /itunes media
>> /itunesU /unknown iTunesU /filename.   This Unknown iTunesU folder does not
>> display as an iTuneU collection header.
>> 
>> Movies can be seen in Apple TV.  (!)  This just shows the text "3 episodes"
>> without a Collection title on a separate line to other iTunesU Collections.
>> This infers I have an un-named Collection in iTunesU, but - - -.
>> 
>> How can I access the movies in iTunes to fix the tags?   How can I delete the
>> invisible Unknown iTunesU structure in iTunes?  I have older backups of the
>> movies (with no iTunes tags) so they could replace the Firewire drive copies
>> if necessary. 
>> 
>> Yes, another example of rushing a 5 minute task and spending hours to repair
>> the damage.
>> 
>> Regards, Alan
>> 
>> Alan Smith
>> iMac 21.5" Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 4M - OSX 10.6.8
>> iPad2; ATV2
>> 


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