2014-08-11 13:29 GMT+03:00 Rutledge Shawn <shawn.rutle...@digia.com>:
>
> On 11 Aug 2014, at 11:34 AM, Giulio Camuffo wrote:
>
>> 2014-08-11 12:20 GMT+03:00 Rutledge Shawn <shawn.rutle...@digia.com>:
>>>
>>> On 11 Aug 2014, at 9:10 AM, Pier Luigi wrote:
>>> (top-posting fixed)
>>>> 2014-08-11 8:13 GMT+02:00 Steve (YiLiang) Zhou <sz...@telecomsys.com>:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> My app has a mainwindow and a QDialog which is a child of mainwindow. And 
>>>>> I
>>>>> want to set the app to the position 0,0.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use both setGeometry and move to  0,0. No luck , both failed. The 
>>>>> window’s
>>>>> position is unfixed and may appear to anywhere on the screen.
>>>
>>> I was wondering about that too.  I understand that it's generally good 
>>> policy to leave positioning of generic windows up to the window manager, 
>>> but sometimes you want to write a dock or taskbar which anchors itself to 
>>> screen edges, and can animate in and out of view; or a splash screen which 
>>> is centered on one screen.  What is the right way to do that on Wayland?
>>
>> The right way is to have a protocol designed for that. A taskbar
>> should use some taskbar_protocol with a request like
>> put_on_edge(edge), and the compositor will then move the surface on
>> the edge and do slide in/out or whatever effect it wants to.
>
> I understand the advantage of taking a higher-level approach.  But then 
> someone thinks of something for which the scenario-specific protocol doesn't 
> suffice.  If windows could move themselves, it might be more flexible.  It 
> may be too low-level, but it's hard to think of any other protocol that is 
> universal enough, which I suppose is why it's not standardized.

The problem is that windows don't always have a meaningful position.
If a window is shown on two outputs at the same time, maybe one of
which a remote one, what is the window position? And what is the
position of a window rotated 45 degrees?

>
> What about when a window provides its own "skinned" window decorations: there 
> will probably be some area in which you can drag to move the window, as you 
> normally can on the titlebar.  Is there another protocol for that?  How would 
> that be different from a generic protocol which windows could use to position 
> themselves?

wl_shell_surface/xdg_surface have a "move" request. The clients call
that and then the compositor actually does the moving.
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