https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52817
Quiddity <pandiculat...@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |q...@wikimedia.org --- Comment #40 from Quiddity <pandiculat...@gmail.com> --- I fall right in the middle of this disagreement. Here's some notes, and an idea. There are good reasons to have the search-option-preferences in both locations (eg. easier-discoverability for newcomers, familiarity for oldtimers), and there are good reasons to centralize/unduplicate at a single location (with Special:Search->Advanced being the reasonable contender because the options-list *has* to appear there). We do need easy-discoverability for newcomers. Searching for help documentation is HELL unless we add the Wikipedia: , Help: , and Template: namespaces to our default search. For the first few years as a new editor, I was constantly searching those namespaces for tools and guides. (Note that the Template: and Category: namespaces aren't included in the "Help and Project pages" output) I'm surprised that we don't already have a link to [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-searchoptions]] anywhere at [[Special:Search]] (advanced tab or otherwise)! How did we miss that, for so long?! Forest, trees. I do also prefer the simple process for "Save" at Special:Preferences. It's not perfect (see bug 55966), but it's fairly intuitive. The new system isn't intuitive. (It makes sense once explained, but an explanation is needed...) I think the problem with the new version, is the physical distance, or dis-connection, of the checkbox from the search button... So, 2 fuzzy/rough suggestions: A) Add a new Blue "Save selection as my default, and Search" button, at the advanced-search tab, instead of the new "Remember selection for future searches" checkbox line. B) leave the "Search" tab at Special:Preferences, but B.1) just link to Special:Search->Advanced from within it. B.2) Or, when clicked, have it open Special:Search->Advanced in a new tab/window. (New tab, because the user might have other unsaved preference-changes, so we can't change the current page. (cf. bug 55966)) Either of these would solve the issues of discoverability and change-aversion. Yes, it'll still leave an annoyingly almost-empty tab, but it's *way* better than the current/old layout, ie. comment #0 -- All 4 links, for your quick comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-searchoptions https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=&fulltext=Search&profile=advanced http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Preferences http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=&fulltext=Search&profile=advanced -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l