I have posted it in talk page and emailed to the group for discussion. If there is no objection or additional discussion in the next 7 days, I'll copy it from talk page to the main page itself.
On 5 December 2014 at 14:09, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > Can you please include suggested topics in the page as well? > > Thanks! > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22 AM, KaewWiki <kaeww...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I understand that the training is designed to transfer experience from >> veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of >> high-impact activities that may be included in the training. >> >> 1. How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This >> is one of the biggest problem for WLM. >> 2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our >> competition more attractive. >> 3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to >> participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to >> bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a >> pilot activity. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as >> if it is one national and find a appropriate eligibility inclusion >> criteria e.g. photos can be used on a Wikipedia article. >> >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training#High_impact_activities >> >> On 30 November 2014 at 22:16, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> >> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > aside from the two or three notes made on the page and this list, and >> > the >> > offers to join the meeting - unfortunately there was very little input >> > on it >> > so far. I hope this is an indication that everybody is very busy, rather >> > than uninterested! >> > >> > I had some private discussions with folks, and based on that input, I >> > tried >> > to push the proposal a bit further. If we want to make this happen, we >> > need >> > to do more though! We really need your input, active participation. If >> > we >> > can't even manage to make this proposal work, the active training I had >> > in >> > mind will most definitely not work out. Just being fair and square: if >> > we >> > don't get more participation soon, I will probably have to kill the >> > idea, >> > and let it be. Would be sad! >> > >> > Looking forward to your input on >> > >> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training >> > >> > Lodewijk >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down for not >> >> having specifics yet :) >> >> >> >> Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves >> >> Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same >> >> philosophy), >> >> it stroke me that there is so much being learned in different >> >> countries, but >> >> that we are not always effectively sharing that among ourselves. Even >> >> if we >> >> share, it doesn't seem that the best practices make it actually to the >> >> implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and that >> >> this >> >> could increase the outcomes (in many different ways) and reduce the >> >> costs >> >> (especially in volunteer organizing time). >> >> >> >> In the first year that we organized the competition on a global scale, >> >> we >> >> had a very effective meeting (May 2011) with a bunch of people from >> >> countries that indicated they wanted to organize WLM later that year. >> >> Although much was to be improved, it helped to build an effective >> >> network of >> >> people helping each other to organize effective competitions - sharing >> >> skills, tools and inspiration. The discussions there were in my opinion >> >> a >> >> major component in the success of the competitions in 2011 and 2012 (in >> >> 2012 >> >> we also had a shorter meeting in Amsterdam). >> >> >> >> At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together an >> >> effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful >> >> work >> >> done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the impression >> >> that >> >> both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki Loves Monuments, a better >> >> international coordination could have helped the competition. >> >> >> >> I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it would be >> >> useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of organizers >> >> around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, best >> >> practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally can >> >> be >> >> strengthened and the international coordination can be given a push in >> >> the >> >> beginning. >> >> >> >> First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and if so >> >> what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of >> >> organizers >> >> should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the budget, >> >> the >> >> pro's and con's and consider whether this would be a wise investment of >> >> our >> >> time and money. Don't worry just yet if it is realistic to request the >> >> money >> >> etc - that is a separate discussion. >> >> >> >> My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's >> >> going >> >> to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could be >> >> worth >> >> it) and I very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input would be >> >> highly valued on this page on Wikimedia Commons. >> >> >> >> Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts, >> >> >> >> Lodewijk >> >> >> >> PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future >> >> competitions, but please don't think I will join the international team >> >> again :) Just want to be realistic. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
