Hi, 2017-01-12 1:41 GMT+01:00 Newyorkbrad <newyorkb...@gmail.com>:
> If it is decided not to host these materials on a wiki, whether for > copyright or any other reasons, then someone (either in the Office or > a volunteer) should be designated to retain a copy privately. That > way, he or she will be able to upload it later if the copyright status > or policy changes in the future, or to make it available offline for > research use or consultation by historians or other researchers who > could make good use of it. > That completely defeats the point. Anyone can keep a copy locally, but 1. the file isn't available publicly, 2. nobody really knows where it is available (Google won't say X has a copy), 3. if the local storage is damaged, the file is lost. So I am asking the WMF to have a place to keep such files publicly. Regards, Yann > > Newyorkbrad/IBM > > On 1/11/17, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you for bringing this up, Yann. Some relevant context is that Meta > > Wiki users considered permitting such files on Meta Wiki a year and a > half > > ago, and decided not to. The electorate was not very big (14 votes, > total), > > but it was carefully considered, with compelling arguments made on both > > sides.[1] > > > > In my opinion, the best outcome would be that Meta Wiki should have an > > Exemption Doctrine Policy (the board's name for a project's local policy > > that would permit copyrighted files under specific circumstances)[2] I > > think the Meta Wiki decision should be revisited and considered in more > > depth, with more participation, and probably reversed (with some careful > > work on defining the proper circumstances for an exemption). > > > > But of course, that's not an easy task. I have no ready answer, but am > > interested to see what ideas others have. > > -Pete > > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > > > [1] > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meta:Babel&; > diff=prev&oldid=13362698#General_discussion_on_allowing_or_rejecting_fair_ > use_at_Meta > > [2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy > > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Yann Forget <yan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I would like to get more opinions about what to do with files such as > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Education_and_WGIG.pdf > >> > >> This is a draft from a United Nations conference which mentions > Wikipedia > >> (the first and only AFAIK), and as such, an important historical > document. > >> > >> It doesn't have a formal license, but there is no real copyright issue. > >> > >> Where and how should we keep such files? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Yann Forget > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
