I strongly disagree with cancelling or delaying the ratification process.

I want my support for the charter to be duly noted, and the set up of the process and preparation have both going all OK.

I have participated in all parliamentary election in my country, even when i know my preferred party will not be able to form a government, or perhaps even win a seat in the parliament.

In the same belief in elections I intend to participate in the BoT election in early September. And there I will vote oppose to all candidates expressing support, explicitly or implicitly, to this disastrous proposal (for the BoT to reject the charter). And I have, perhaps naively, a hope that the new board formed in December will come to it senses and change its vote (if it will be a no)

Anders

Den 2024-06-21 kl. 22:42, skrev Samuel Klein:
I agree with Christophe (no surprise) and also with what Paulo and Gnangarra wrote.

–  The Board should vote first.  (Obviously the community can organize its own vote for a no-WMF-approval-required movement body, but here we are talking about shared decision-making that starts with WMF delegation and facilitation -- so alignment is a prerequisite.)

=  The current charter has known flaws*. Its text and details have been in constant flux, and are absolutely not ready to be set in stone. It must be easy to change; not the current approach of making every small change /very/ slow and difficult <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Supplementary_Document/Amendment_Process>. As Paulo says, that is worse than no charter.

≡  We should all commit to meaningful change, to updating movement structures and distributing power and decision-making effectively.  This year, that means starting to share aspects of each core responsibility, while iterating [in public!] towards a polished charter.      I appreciate the motion toward this suggested in Nat's letter; there should also be groups focusing on a simple version of movement support (complementing affcom) and on movement strategy (complementing existing annual processes).

SJ

☷ *Flaws: hundreds from small to large have been thoughtfully pointed out in feedback to date.  Many were addressed in the last revision, but many more have not been.  To name one prominent type of flaw: the current draft creates a number of new risks and problems for the movement, including risks related to the very power sharing it is designed to address, without acknowledging or addressing the challenges that each raises:  ⧺  It is gameable. (Ex: the GC sets strategy for all, decides who can be an affiliate, its own budget and size, and all funds dissemination.)  ⧺  It would shift most power from a WMF with few checks and balances, to a Council with almost none.  That's not good governance, nor good transition tactics.  It is also not in keeping with the recommendations from the last movement strategy process (which involved more community energy, and was done in a more collaborative + nuanced + open way, than this charter)  ⧺  It would accelerate the unplanned trend of shifting power and governance responsibility to affiliates, specifically to user groups (which make up most affiliates) -- explicitly the opposite of the original intent of creating such a lightweight form of affiliation.  ⧻  It would /mandate/ that the Council immediately do four difficult things, and that an unspecified dispute resolution body will do a fifth. Overpromising leads to confusion, not strength.

Finally, after the practical issues are addressed, before proposing something like this as a founding movement document, the language deserves a round of tightening for eloquence, inspiration, and clarity.  There are neologisms, grammatical quirks, odd wordings, easily misinterpreted clauses, and a lack of proportionality or parallelism.

🌍🌏🌎🌑

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 8:50 AM Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi

    Have to agree with Christophe, if the recommendation of the BOT
    liaisons to the Board about the MCDC is to reject it, then the
    Board should meet first and make their collective decision
    regardless of the cost.  This is a broad document, with as
    significant a potential for good and as it does harm.

    On the checks and balances it has very limited capacity if not
    absolutely no meaningful options for change should it be needed,
    there's not even a last dire last resort Board can dissolve the GC
    nuclear option.

    We have time to wait for the Boards decision.

    On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 at 20:37, Paulo Santos Perneta
    <paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:

        People don't approve a bad or deficient Constitution, and then
        hope for improvement afterwards.
        No Charter is way better than a problematic Charter.

        Paulo

        Christophe Henner <christophe.hen...@gmail.com> escreveu
        (sexta, 21/06/2024 à(s) 13:29):

            Hi Nataliia,

            Thank you for your clear feedback. I’m concerned about the
            current situation regarding the Movement Charter.

            Firstly, I recommend the Foundation vote first in the
            process. The board, being the smaller group with decisive
            power, should *lead by example* to avoid wasting the
            community’s time and energy if the charter is not going to
            be approved. After three years of discussion, it is
            unlikely that a few more days will change the board's
            opinion.

            Let’s be mindful of the toll additional voting will take
            on all of us. This way, we can collectively acknowledge
            that this effort did not result in an agreement by
            everyone and create space to move onto the next step of
            our collective journey sooner rather than later.

            Secondly, the Strategy Process was initiated and funded by
            the Wikimedia Foundation and led by it until the
            recommendations phase.

            It seems counterproductive to delegate the charter
            creation to a volunteer group only to dismiss their work
            when the outcome isn't as desired. Returning to previous
            structures, like the FDC, which we identified as a
            band-aid a few years ago, feels like a step back. This
            approach nullifies three years of effort and misses the
            opportunity to address fundamental issues in our power
            distribution.

            The current Charter, while not perfect, opens the door for
            essential discussions and potential evolution in our
            governance. Rejecting the charter outright reinforces the
            status quo rather than fostering necessary changes. We
            must recognize that Wikimedia Foundation, after 21 years,
            needs to evolve alongside our projects and the wider
            world. The discussions we initiated opened*new
            possibilities* for our movement.

            I hope the board will commit to *meaningful change* rather
            than reverting to old methods. We need to align our
            movement with our core value of equity, which requires
            embracing radical change.

            To also walk the talk of collaborating together and
            sharing responsibilities, I propose the following steps to
            move forward:

             1. Reopen discussions on the Movement Structures with
                clear objectives, support, timelines, and Foundation
                involvement.
             2. Gather a small working group to outline, in a fast and
                agile way, the main questions and issues to tackle.
             3. Engage more directly with community feedback to
                address key concerns, improving on what worked in the
                first phases of the Strategy Process that drove global
                discussions.
             4. Engage openly and build together to avoid repeating
                the current situation of discarding three years of work.

            I believe these steps could help us fulfill our mission
            and align our movement with the values we all share.

            Best regards,
            Christophe Henner (Schiste)
            Former Wikimedia Foundation Board Chair
            Former Wikimedia France Board Chair

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