On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 01:19:13PM -0400, John Freed wrote: > Ah, the difference between British English and American English. > > <lang=en-uk>ManU are crushing Arsenal.</lang> > <lang=en-us>ManU is crushing Arsenal.</lang> > > UK English insists on plural verbs for collective nouns (family, team, > list, etc.), while US English generally uses singular verbs. (An exception > is "couple" referring to a romantic pair -- "The couple are going to the > store" would be acceptable on both sides of the Atlantic, although many > Americans would say "is" even here.)
I think it depends on whether you are referring to the collective noun itself or the individuals that make up the collection (and possibly whether it is a mass noun). I'm English and definitely want to say: - the list is up to date - the lists are correct - in the list below are ... - England are batting - Arsenal are winning David -- David Laight: [EMAIL PROTECTED]