Right on Eje! The other side hopes that their opposition wont vote and they
win by default. I realize its usually the lesser of two evils but dont let
that stop you. -RickG

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Eje Gustafsson <e...@wisp-router.com> wrote:

> Every vote counts. For every guy that thinks not there is two other that
> don't vote. If people came over this mentality your vote would matter
> because no matter what people think they are not alone in their believes.
>
> Look at the 2008 President election
> State    Margin
> Missouri 0.14%
> NC       0.32%
> Indiana  1.04%
> NE 2nd cong dist 1.19%
> MT       2.25%
> Florida  2.82%
> Ohio     4.59% (your state)
> These states represented 88 electoral votes
>
> States/districts with margin more than 5% but less than 10 represented
> another 64 electoral votes.
>
> Missouri there was a total of 3903 votes difference. Never say a vote do
> NOT
> count.
>
> I could really go at it and say that Americans should be ASHAMED of
> themselves. You bitch you moan about government and politics but only 63%
> of
> those that bothered to register to vote did vote in the last election for
> president. The SADEST part about it is that was a 10million voter increase
> over previous election.
> There is some 210million people registered to vote 132million bothered.
>
> Take this in comparison with say Sweden (which I know a lot of since I'm
> original from there)
> In Sweden you do NOT have to registered to vote. Once your 18 you are not
> only eligible to vote but your expected to vote. Consider there is no
> obligation and everyone 18 and older is considered a "registered voter". In
> the last 30 years (vote for Parliament, no we don't have a president or
> king
> with powers) the LOWEST voting record was 80.1% and highest 91.8% turn out
> to vote.
>
> So end of 2012 anyone here I do not want to hear that they didn't vote. Go
> vote and while you are at it bring a friend or three to vote as well. Your
> voice can be heard. I'm sure there are at least 4000 people in Missouri
> that
> are today glad they voted to show the color of their state.
> North Carolina there is probably 14000 people today that wished they had
> voted.
>
> Alright of my soap box.
>
> Back to wireless talk for me doing my once a year of topic outburst ;)
>
> / Eje
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:39 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Follow up article
>
> I have not voted to this day, to be honest.
>
> It is the masses and "the public" that votes and they well out number me.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> wrote:
>
> > Josh
> >
> > How does it feel to be in the middle of a state where your vote hardly
> > matters?
> >
> > I, in NJ had the same issue until recently.
> >
> > Let's hope the larger cities finally wake the heck up!
> >
> >
> > On Feb 1, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >
> > > You know I really didn't like Obama in the beginning.
> > >
> > > Now he's really pissing me off.
> > >
> > > Josh Luthman
> > > Office: 937-552-2340
> > > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > 1100 Wayne St
> > > Suite 1337
> > > Troy, OH 45373
> > >
> > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> > > continue
> > > that counts."
> > > --- Winston Churchill
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:53 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I was just wondering about this the other day. It seems that we
> > >> (USA) give
> > >> things away so freely only to have them used against us. In the
> > >> case of the
> > >> net, I find it ironic that the very thing we developed is being
> > >> used to
> > >> attack our government and our people in so many ways yet we let
> > >> everyone
> > >> connect to it. I think we should start cutting of the ilk that hack
> > >> or
> > >> attempt to hack into our networks.
> > >> -RickG
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Chuck Profito <cprof...@cv-
> > >> access.com
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> From NewsMax:
> > >>>
> > >>> Obama Surrendering Internet to Foreign Powers
> > >>>
> > >>> Sunday, 31 Jan 2010 06:41 PM Article Font Size
> > >>> By: Bradley A. Blakeman
> > >>>
> > >>> Without the ingenuity of America's brightest minds and the
> > >>> investment of
> > >>> U.S. taxpayer dollars, there would be no Internet, as we now know it
> > >> today.
> > >>>
> > >>> Now, the Obama administration has moved quietly to cede control of
> > >>> the
> > >> Web
> > >>> from the United States to foreign powers.
> > >>>
> > >>> Some background: The Internet came into being because of the
> > >>> genius work
> > >> of
> > >>> Americans Dr.Robert E. Kahn and Dr. Vinton G. Cerf. These men, while
> > >>> working
> > >>> for the Department of Defense in the Defense Advanced Research
> > >>> Projects
> > >>> Agency in the early 1970s, conceived, designed, and implemented
> > >>> the idea
> > >> of
> > >>> "open-architecture networking."
> > >>>
> > >>> This breakthrough in connectivity and networking was the birth of
> > >>> the
> > >>> Internet.
> > >>>
> > >>> These two gentlemen had the vision and the brainpower to create a
> > >> worldwide
> > >>> computer Internet communications network that forever changed the
> > >>> world
> > >> and
> > >>> how we communicate in it.
> > >>>
> > >>> They discovered that providing a person with a unique identifier
> > >>> (TCP/IP)that was able to be recognized and interact through a
> > >>> network of
> > >>> servers would allow users to communicate with others.
> > >>>
> > >>> The servers woulduse a series of giant receivers to recognize the
> > >>> identifier
> > >>> and connect networks to networks, passing on information from
> > >>> computer to
> > >>> computer in a seamless real-time exchange of information. This new
> > >> process
> > >>> of communication became know as the "information super highway,"
> > >>> aka, the
> > >>> Internet.
> > >>>
> > >>> Now for the bad news: In an effort to show the world how inclusive,
> > >>> sharing,
> > >>> cooperative, and international America can be, the Obama
> > >>> administration
> > >> set
> > >>> off on a plan to surrender control and key management of the
> > >>> Internet by
> > >>> the
> > >>> U.S. Department of Commerce and its agents.
> > >>>
> > >>> The key to the control America has over the Internet is through the
> > >>> management of the Domain Name System (DNS) and the giant servers
> > >>> that
> > >>> service the Internet.
> > >>>
> > >>> Domain names are managed through an entity named IANA, the Internet
> > >>> Assigned
> > >>> Numbers Authority. The IANA, which operates on behalf of the U.S.
> > >>> Department
> > >>> of Commerce, is responsible for the global coordination of the
> > >>> DNS, IP
> > >>> addressing, and other Internet protocol resources.
> > >>>
> > >>> In short, without an IP Address or other essential Internet
> > >>> protocols, a
> > >>> person or entity would not have access to the Internet.
> > >>>
> > >>> For years, the international community has been pressuring the
> > >>> United
> > >>> States
> > >>> to surrender its control and management of the Internet. They want
> > >>> an
> > >>> international body such as the United Nations or even the
> > >>> International
> > >>> Telecommunications Union, (an entity that coordinates international
> > >>> telephone communications), to manage all aspects of the Internet in
> > >> behalf
> > >>> of all nations.
> > >>>
> > >>> The argument advanced for those seeking international control of the
> > >>> Internet is that the Internet has become such a powerful,
> > >>> pervasive, and
> > >> a
> > >>> dependent form of international communications, that it would be
> > >> dangerous
> > >>> and inequitable for any one nation to control and manage it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Just this past spring, within months of Obama's taking office, his
> > >>> administration, through the Department of Commerce, agreed to
> > >>> relinquish
> > >>> some control over IANA and their governance. The Obama
> > >>> administration has
> > >>> agreed to give greater representation to foreign companies and
> > >>> countries
> > >> on
> > >>> IANA.
> > >>>
> > >>> This amounts to one small step for internationalism and one giant
> > >>> leap
> > >> for
> > >>> surrendering America's control over an invention we have every
> > >>> right and
> > >>> responsibility to control and manage.
> > >>>
> > >>> It is in America's economic and national security interests not to
> > >>> relinquish any control. We are responsible for the control,
> > >>> operation,
> > >> and
> > >>> functionality of one of the modern world's greatest inventions and
> > >>> most
> > >>> powerful communications network.
> > >>>
> > >>> What better country to protect the Internet than the United States?
> > >>>
> > >>> We invented it, and we paid for the research and implementation
> > >>> that made
> > >>> it
> > >>> possible. We are the freest, most tolerant nation on earth, we
> > >>> believe in
> > >>> the
> > >>> fundamental right of free speech, and we practice a free market of
> > >> commerce
> > >>> and ideas.
> > >>>
> > >>> America has always been against censorship and has shared its
> > >>> invention
> > >>> with
> > >>> the world without fee or unreasonable or arbitrary restriction.
> > >>> The user
> > >>> fee
> > >>> to operate on the Internet is not one paid to the U.S. government; a
> > >>> consumer pays it to private Internet companies, who provide access
> > >>> to the
> > >>> Internet through servers for their subscribers.
> > >>>
> > >>> Look no further than China's recent move against Google to censor
> > >>> the
> > >>> Internet, and you can envision what can happen when other nations
> > >>> less
> > >> free
> > >>> than the United States seek to control the Internet beyond even
> > >>> their own
> > >>> borders.
> > >>>
> > >>> America needs to wake up. If we lose control over the management
> > >>> of the
> > >>> Internet, we have given away one of our nation's greatest assets
> > >>> with
> > >>> nothing
> > >>> in return to show for it.
> > >>>
> > >>> The Obama administration's actions will set in motion a slow and
> > >>> complete
> > >>> takeover of the Internet by the United Nations or some other equally
> > >>> U.S.-hostile and unfriendly international body. And once it is
> > >>> gone, it
> > >>> will
> > >>> be gone forever.
> > >>>
> > >>> The surrender of the Internet will spell disaster for our nation,
> > >>> financially, as well as for safety, security and our standing as a
> > >>> great
> > >>> power that values freedom and the free exchange of ideas and
> > >>> information.
> > >>>
> > >>> As far as I am concerned, America is still the last best hope for
> > >>> a more
> > >>> peaceful and prosperous world and our president should not be
> > >>> looking for
> > >>> ways to weaken us. Rather, his job is to work to strengthen us and
> > >> protect
> > >>> our nation's greatest asset our people's creativity and ingenuity.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Bradley A. Blakeman, who was a deputy assistant to President
> > >>> George W.
> > >> Bush
> > >>> from 2001-20004, teaches Public Policy & Politics & International
> > >>> Affairs
> > >>> at
> > >>> Georgetown University.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> C Newsmax. All rights reserved.
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
> > >>> boun...@wispa.org] On
> > >>> Behalf Of RickG
> > >>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:58 PM
> > >>> To: WISPA General List
> > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Commissioner Robert McDowell's statement on
> > >>> Broadband...
> > >>>
> > >>> I wonder what the catch is :)
> > >>> -RickG
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:07 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> "First, do harm".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-296081A1.pdf
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This speech was made at the end of January...  At least ONE
> > >>> commissioner's
> > >>>> got his head on straight...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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