Alan, when does geronimo move to JDK 1.5? That said, i understand many current production deployments are on JDK 1.4 and majority of them are moving to JDK 1.5. Aren't we targetting new deployments. If so, I think we must consider JDK 1.5 as it allows to build better Yoko than JDK 1.4.
I have to think little bit about your layering approach. thanks, Adi > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 12:24 PM > To: yoko-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: coding standard and logging > > > I think that we can layer this. Core server compiles and runs under > JDK14. Tooling, etc. compiles and runs under JDK15. > > Let me be clear. The overwhelming bulk of production > deployments are in > JDK14. We need to be sensitive to this. You will need to > convince me > that any other route other than the compromise stated above > is a viable > option. > > I do not like retrotranslators since, IIUC, they do not work well w/ > debuggers. > > > Regards, > Alan > > Sakala, Adinarayana wrote, On 4/6/2006 8:50 AM: > > >Yes If we start JDK 1.5 you get all the rich features of JDK > 1.5 plus most projects/customers are moving in that direction. > >For the part that "we will not support JDK 1.4" answer is > yes and no depending on how you look at it. > >Yes, is we can use a retrotranslator to run in a JDK 1.4 > environment. http://retrotranslator.sourceforge.net/ > > > >My vote would be to start with JDK 1.5 as Aaron suggests in > this email. Writing code in JDK1.5 is so much different than > writing code in JDK 1.4 and then running it in 1.5. > > > >+1 to take the route of JDK 1.5 for Yoko. > > > >thanks, > >Adi > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:34 AM > >>To: yoko-dev@incubator.apache.org > >>Subject: Re: coding standard and logging > >> > >> > >>Nolan, Edell wrote, On 4/6/2006 8:19 AM: > >> > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: 06 April 2006 16:07 > >>>To: yoko-dev@incubator.apache.org > >>>Subject: Re: coding standard and logging > >>> > >>>Lars Kühne wrote, On 4/5/2006 9:30 PM: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Lars Kühne wrote, On 4/4/2006 4:05 PM: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Nolan, Edell wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>2) The last email for the logging - is below We could use the > >>>>>>>LogUtils class from celtix which is using the > >>>>>>>jdk1.5 logging. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>I think there was strong opposition against JDK logging because > >>>>>>people love log4j. I think the consensus was to define our own > >>>>>>logger interface and inject that in ORB.init(). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>What are our target JDK versions again? Do we start w/ JDK14 or > >>>>>JDK13? I am of the opinion that we use the vanilla logger > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>for JDK14 > >> > >> > >>>>>or, if we start w/ JDK13, log4j. In either case I do > not see the > >>>>>need for a specialized logger interface that's injected; I'm > >>>>>interested in hearing opinion on this. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>JDK 1.3 will be end-of-lifed by Sun this summer, so I think > >>>> > >>>> > >>we should > >> > >> > >>>>ignore it. > >>>> > >>>>Re logging, where I work we use log4j on JDK 1.4. I think > that is a > >>>>pretty common scenario, and using vanilla j.u.logging will not > >>>>integrate well with the rest of our apps. If you want to > >>>> > >>>> > >>support both > >> > >> > >>>>you either have to use some logger abstraction, and a > >>>> > >>>> > >>logger interface > >> > >> > >>>>is the best abstraction I can come up with. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Makes sense. What about slf4j? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Re minimum JDK: I would like to also bring JDK 1.5 into the > >>>> > >>>> > >>picture, > >> > >> > >>>>but maybe that should go into another thread. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Yes, if our minimum JDK is 1.4 then I assume that we would > >>> > >>> > >>work under JDK1.5; er, at least if you don't use Geronimo as > >>an example. :) > >> > >> > >>>Regards, > >>>Alan. > >>> > >>>I seen on the geronimo dev list > >>> > >>>"We already support JDK 1.5 except for CORBA. Because of > >>> > >>> > >>the CORBA limitation Geronimo can't be certified on JDK 1.5, > >>but if you leave CORBA disabled (and turn off the DayTrader > >>sample application) Geronimo should run fine on 1.5. > >> > >> > >>>Thanks, > >>> Aaron > >>>" > >>> > >>>My vote is to start with jdk1.5 and it seems geronimo > >>> > >>> > >>already has support for jdk1.5. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>When you say start w/ JDK 1.5, do you mean that we will not support > >>JDK1.4? I am very much against that. > >> > >> > >>Regards, > >>Alan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >
