Paul Everitt wrote:
Thus, telling the Zope 3 core team to own and distribute the killer app
is neither realistic nor fair. Move Zope 3 to its natural turf and
collaborate with folks that feel passionate about other turf.
Application != the framework.
A very good point. Perhaps the future will be:
Developer learns Grok. Developer likes Grok. Developer improves Grok.
Developer finds that to improve Grok, he should help improve Zope 3.
And then maybe s/Grok/Plone/g or s/Grok/something else/g.
I'm obviously not in the business or position of telling people what to
do (well, ahem, maybe I do, at least in the Plone world, but that's
mostly just good intentions).
My concern is that we should make the framework accessible and
approachable, and that having a focal point and a "path through" the
framework is an important part of that. Grok is encouraging to me in
that regard. Plone is quite actively (but not wholesale any time soon)
moving in a direction where it becomes a strong consumer of Zope 3.
Hopefully, we'll see something else emerge as well that is conceptually
a combination of the two: End user-oriented and pure Zope 3.
I don't think anyone's argued otherwise, of course, I'm just pointing to
existing wisdom I've received and observed.
Martin
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