>Please let me know if there is any way I can help out or if there is anything you need from our end. When you have deployed your newest code to production, let's check whether events appear on the production stream. Let us know when deployment is done and you think your code should be logging. To confirm: You have seen proper logging from your events in vagrant, right?
Di you setup a sampling rate or code is logging 1 to 1? On our end we will work to troubleshoot the beta EL infrastructure, I am not familiar with it and neither is anyone on our team but we will ask around. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Joel Sahleen <jsahl...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi Nuria, > > Thank you so much for your help on this. Please let me know if there is > any way I can help out or if there is anything you need from our end. > > Joel > > Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer > Language Engineering > Wikimedia Foundation > jsahl...@wikimedia.org > > > > > On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Nuria Ruiz <nu...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > Hello, > > Taking last statement back, asked Yuvi and beta does have a varnish > instance so the flow of EL events "should" be the same one that production. > > Now I looked on deployment-eventlogging02, which is the EL machine for > labs and the last events I see there are from Aug 22. > > So no events have come in as of late, which could point to an issue on the > setup. I will look into it some more. > > Thanks, > > Nuria > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Nuria Ruiz <nu...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> To keep archives happy: Beta setup post events to >> http://bits.beta.wmflabs.org/event.gif >> <http://bits.beta.wmflabs.org/event.gif?foo=bar> that, while it does not >> look to be varnish, has some kind of listener that post those events to >> beta event logging database. >> >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Joel Sahleen <jsahl...@wikimedia.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Niklas, >>> >>> Can you answer this question from Nuria? >>> >>> jsahleen: does beta have its own varnish instance? where are you >>> posting your events in beta? can you send teh url? >>> >>> Also would it be possible to document the steps you used when testing EL >>> on beta so that others can reproduce them? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joel >>> >>> Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer >>> Language Engineering >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> jsahl...@wikimedia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 4:28 AM, Joel Sahleen <jsahl...@wikimedia.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> (Moving this discussion to analytics@ and localization-team@ based on >>> Nuria’s suggestion below.) >>> >>> Hi Leila, >>> >>> The output I posted in the message is the only output I am seeing. I do >>> not see the URL-encoded section or the validation section. I think there >>> may be something wrong with my testing setup. >>> >>> Niklas Laxstöm has checked what is happening with our event logging in >>> beta and he confirmed that we are sending events and the events are valid. >>> The issue seems to be that we are logging events to the beta event logging >>> db while what we checked earlier was the production event logging db. >>> >>> Can you (or anyone who is available) check the event logging db in beta >>> to see if the table has been created and has data? The schema name again is >>> ContentTranslation. If you don’t find anything, let us know and we will do >>> some more investigation. >>> >>> If there is data in the beta db the next step would be to follow with Dan’s >>> instructions <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Dashboards> to >>> get a dashboard set up on limn1. I believe that most of Dan’s instructions >>> need to be handled by someone on the analytics team, but let me know if >>> there is anything I can help with. >>> >>> Thanks again for your help! >>> >>> Joel >>> >>> Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer >>> Language Engineering >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> jsahl...@wikimedia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 11:47 PM, Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Joel, >>> >>> When you log events, the output will be the URL-encoded JSON sent by >>> the browser, the event record (similar to what you pasted in your email), >>> and whether the event validates against the schema. For the sample output >>> you pasted earlier, or another sample output, can you let us know if >>> validation section shows Valid? >>> >>> Leila >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Nuria Ruiz <nu...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Joel, >>>> >>>> For questions like these going forward you can contact analytics@ as >>>> you will be getting amore prompt response. Both Dan and Leila are OOTO the >>>> next couple of days. >>>> >>>> >There are configuration options for the dev server that need to be >>>> added. Do similar options need to be added when not using the dev server? >>>> No, there is no need. >>>> >>>> You would need sample rates to determine at which sampling rate you are >>>> logging if you are not logging all events, that is. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Nuria >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Dan Andreescu < >>>> dandree...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Adding Nuria as she can probably help >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, November 10, 2014, Joel Sahleen <jsahl...@wikimedia.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Leila, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have tested our EventLogging code and it seems to be working fine >>>>>> with the event logging dev server. I can see the events coming through >>>>>> and >>>>>> they are valid. Here is some sample output: >>>>>> >>>>>> {"wiki": "wiki", "uuid": "e9dde14cf18552269ae81a7897f45d0c", >>>>>> "webHost": "localhost", "timestamp": 1415651367, "clientValidated": true, >>>>>> "recvFrom": "1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa", "seqId": 2, "clientIp": >>>>>> "80f7683f3565e3d365740a1c8d1771ba95caaaaa", "schema": >>>>>> "ContentTranslation", >>>>>> "event": {"action": "create-translated-page", "targetLanguage": "ca", >>>>>> "token": "Tester", "version": 1, "contentLanguage": "es"}, "revision": >>>>>> 7146627} >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there additional configuration options we need to add to get EL >>>>>> working aside from just requiring the main extension file. There are >>>>>> configuration options for the dev server that need to be added. Do >>>>>> similar >>>>>> options need to be added when not using the dev server? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help on this would be much appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Joel >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Joel Sahleen <jsahl...@wikimedia.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No problem, Dan. Enjoy your vacation! >>>>>> >>>>>> I will read through the document at the link you sent. I still need >>>>>> to fix our event logging code so it may be a couple days before we are >>>>>> ready anyway. If I have any questions I will contact Leila or Nuria. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Joel >>>>>> >>>>>> Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer >>>>>> Language Engineering >>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>>> jsahl...@wikimedia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Dan Andreescu <dandree...@wikimedia.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Joel, re: visualization, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm going on vacation tomorrow and will be back on November 19th. If >>>>>> that's not too late, I can set up a limn instance then. If it's too >>>>>> late, >>>>>> that's ok, I wrote up the steps needed. Someone with access to the >>>>>> limn1.eqiad.wmflabs instance can perform them: >>>>>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Dashboards >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have the data or are generating the data in some other way, >>>>>> then you don't need half of that setup, you just need the part that sets >>>>>> up >>>>>> the limn dashboard which is only an hour or so of work. Sorry I'm >>>>>> running >>>>>> out the door and can't take care of that for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Joel Sahleen <jsahl...@wikimedia.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for the information, Pau. Very helpful. As you say, this >>>>>>> does not change our current plans or hold us up in any way. I was just >>>>>>> wasn’t clear about the relationship between the "high priorities" and >>>>>>> "other metrics” sections. Knowing these came from different people at >>>>>>> different times clarifies things a lot. >>>>>>> Joel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 3:44 AM, Pau Giner <pgi...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @Pau, @Amir There is a section called High priorities for product >>>>>>>> management >>>>>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/analytics#High_priorities_for_product_management> >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> the Content translation analytics page. Did these priorities come from >>>>>>>> outside the team or does this just represent our own internal view of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> high priorities? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is the story of that page as I'm aware of it: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In September 2013, I was in a meeting with the analytics team in SF >>>>>>> presenting an initial proposal for metrics >>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/presentation/d/1V1XLV7jUcAtco5ZC49SNTt3VecH7hARZ6vqbSFGnOYc/edit?usp=sharing>. >>>>>>> On that meeting, Dario recommended to create hierarchy of metrics based >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> the project goals. I created such image and a description for those >>>>>>> metrics >>>>>>> (the image is on top of our analytics page and the metrics are >>>>>>> described in >>>>>>> what it now the "Other metrics for created articles" section. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a meeting between Amir and Howie, they captured which should be >>>>>>> the most important metrics from the product perspective in the "High >>>>>>> priorities for product management". If I recalled correctly, as an >>>>>>> outcome >>>>>>> of later meetings between Howie and Amir, Howie was happy focusing on >>>>>>> articles published as a single (initial?) metric for success. Amir can >>>>>>> provide more details since I was not on those meetings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In short: The analytics page >>>>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/analytics> has >>>>>>> pieces contributed by different people during the last year, and >>>>>>> although >>>>>>> there are many ideas to organise and detail, measuring the number of >>>>>>> published articles seems to be the solid candidate to get started with, >>>>>>> learn from the value we get from it and polish the rest of our >>>>>>> goal-to-signal >>>>>>> process <http://www.rodden.org/kerry/heart/> for detecting better >>>>>>> metrics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pau >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Joel Sahleen <jsahl...@wikimedia.org >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been reviewing our requirements for Content translation >>>>>>>> analytics >>>>>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/analytics> and >>>>>>>> I have a few questions/requests. I am sending them to the language team >>>>>>>> list and Leila and Dan in the hopes of getting some more clarity. I >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> add the same content to the Trello card. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the weekly team meeting earlier today we agreed that the first >>>>>>>> metric we want to collect data for is the number of articles created in >>>>>>>> each language over time. This is something has Amir has already set up >>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>> current Event Logging >>>>>>>> <https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki/extensions/ContentTranslation/89b6284f06b4419ddec6dcccee0eed500f267100/modules/eventlogging/ext.cx.eventlogging.js> >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> track. Now that Kartik has enabled EL in beta, that part should be >>>>>>>> done. >>>>>>>> Since we are only barely turning it on, there will be very little data >>>>>>>> until people create more articles using CX. However, we should be set >>>>>>>> up to >>>>>>>> collect any new data that comes in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Leila, can you verify that the db table now exists for the >>>>>>>> ContentTranslation >>>>>>>> schema <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schema:ContentTranslation>? >>>>>>>> If it doesn’t, can you point us to right people we need to work with to >>>>>>>> troubleshoot the issue? Also you mentioned in our meeting that personal >>>>>>>> data may soon be purged after 90 days as part of a new privacy policy. >>>>>>>> Could you explain that a bit more or point us to more information? If >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> is the case, it may affect some of the metrics we would like to >>>>>>>> collect in >>>>>>>> the future. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Dan, what do we need to do next in order to set up a very simple >>>>>>>> visualization that would show the number of articles created per week >>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>> language. Pau has an image of what he would like on the Trello card >>>>>>>> <https://trello.com/c/vQm0hlkt/18-content-translation-analytics>. >>>>>>>> You mentioned something about being able to host a dashboard for us on >>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>> of the Limn servers you already have set up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Santhosh, I believe you said earlier you have a script you use to >>>>>>>> export the data for the ULS analytics. If so can you share that please >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> case we need a similar script for CX so I don’t have to write a new >>>>>>>> script >>>>>>>> from scratch? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Pau, @Amir There is a section called High priorities for product >>>>>>>> management >>>>>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/analytics#High_priorities_for_product_management> >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> the Content translation analytics page. Did these priorities come from >>>>>>>> outside the team or does this just represent our own internal view of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> high priorities? If the latter, have these priorities been >>>>>>>> reviewed by anyone outside the team? I think we are safe to proceed >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> our current plan, but it would be good to have product sign off on >>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>> more generally. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Joel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer >>>>>>>> Language Engineering >>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>>>>> jsahl...@wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Localisation-team mailing list >>>>>>>> localisation-t...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/localisation-team >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Pau Giner >>>>>>> Interaction Designer >>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Localisation-team mailing list >>>>>>> localisation-t...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/localisation-team >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Localisation-team mailing list > localisation-t...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/localisation-team > > > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >
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