Re: Arson

[Popeyesays]

In a message dated 1/22/2005 12:09:24 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alot of the Islamic penalties can be mitigated as well. They aren't applied in a vacum. There are all sorts of exceptions, and requirements and its a basic principle that you want to avoid applying severe punishments. Make excuses for people.  And the society, if healthy, would make it easy to keep the law. Yes, there is a harsh punishment for theft, but the ideal Islamic state is supposed to be a welfare state which would make sure that people's needs are taken care of and economic exploitation is reduced. Yes there is a harsh punishment for adultery, but the society would encourage modesty. And it is actually really easy to get divorced and married. Even if you wanted to be really cynical, in order to convict for adultery you are supposed to have 4 upright witness who see penetration. To get married you only need 2 witnesses and it literally could just take a couple seconds to have a legally valid marriage. I agree that mitigations are allowed. But I see Qur'anic Shariah as social laws enacted for the time and place. It is not, however the same time and place today. It is only when the nations who, to my estimation, are not upright and ethical Islamic nations attempt to set the clock back and ignore the passage of time that such problems arise.     Regards,   Scott __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu