Ok, so being "independent" from Islam in this context. means Bahais
are not Muslims. That should be easy enough to prove. If a Muslim
disagrees with that claim then pretty clearly they are arguing under a
different definition.
-Gilberto
On 5/12/06, Sandra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Gilberto wrote: Maybe it would clarify things if you define beforehand what
you mean
by "independent religion". To be honest I don't know for sure what that
means.
What has to be true in order for two religions to be "independent"?
-Gilberto
Dear Gilberto,
Perhaps this will clarify "independent religion" as defined by the Egypt's
religious Tribunal and described by Shoghi Effendi.
Sandra
Decision of Egyptian Tribunal
Of all the diverse issues which today are gradually tending to consolidate
and extend the bounds of the Revelation of Bahá'u'lláh, the decision of
Egypt's religious Tribunal regarding the Bahá'ís under its jurisdiction
appears at the present moment to be the most powerful in its challenge, the
most startling in its character, and the most perplexing in the consequences
it may entail. I have already alluded in my letter of January 10, 1926,
addressed to the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá'ís of the United
States and Canada, to a particular feature of this momentous verdict, which
after mature deliberation has obtained the sanction of Egypt's highest
ecclesiastical authorities, has been communicated and printed, and is
regarded as final and binding. I have stressed in my last reference to this
far-reaching pronouncement the negative aspect of this document which
condemns in most unequivocal and emphatic language the followers of
Bahá'u'lláh as the believers in heresy, offensive and injurious to Islam,
and wholly incompatible with the accepted doctrines and practice of its
orthodox adherents.
A closer study of the text of the decision will, however, reveal the fact
that coupled with this strong denunciation is the positive assertion of a
truth which the recognized opponents of the Bahá'í Faith in other Muhammadan
countries have up to the present time either sedulously ignored or
maliciously endeavored to disprove. Not content with this harsh and
unjustifiable repudiation of the so-called menacing and heretical doctrines
of the adherents of the Bahá'í Faith, they proceed in a formal manner to
declare in the text of that very decision their belief, that the Bahá'í
Faith is a "new religion," "entirely independent" and, by reason of the
magnitude of its claim and the character of its "laws, principles and
beliefs," worthy to be reckoned as one of the established religious systems
of the world. Quoting various passages judiciously gleaned from a number of
Bahá'í sacred Books as an evidence to their splendid testimony, they proceed
in a notable statement to deduce the fact that henceforth it shall be
regarded as impossible for the followers of such a Faith to be designated as
Muslim, just as it would be incorrect and erroneous to call a Muhammadan
either Christian or Jew.
(Shoghi Effendi, Baha'i Administration, p. 121)
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