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Susan, let's try this. On your next trip to Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Brunei, 
Kuwait, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen, etc. See if you can legally buy and 
drink alcohol there. Then, try and search the black market for illegal alcohol 
if you need to. While you don't have to actually drink the alcohol once you get 
it, but you need to see which one of us is correct.

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On Apr 18, 2013, at 15:24, Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Here below is a Wikipedia excerpt.
> 
> Note Libya, Sudan, Afghanistan, Brunei, Bangladesh, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, 
> Yemen, etc. are listed as completely illegal alcohol status rather than just 
> Saudi Arabia like you imply.
> 
> Also note Iran and Pakistan are listed as almost completely illegal.
> 
> Also note in Gabon, Gambia, Malaysia, Maldives, etc. alcohol is legal for 
> everyone except the Muslim minority.
> ethanol (ethyl alcohol, commonly referred to as simply alcohol, produced 
> through fermentation by yeast in alcoholic beverages such as wine and beer) – 
> legal but regulated in most parts of the world, and illegal in several Muslim 
> countries such as Pakistan, Libya, Sudan, Iran and Saudi Arabia; not consumed 
> by members of some religions. It acts as a GABAA receptor agonist. In 
> chemistry,alcohol can refer to more than ethyl alcohol. Methanol (methyl 
> alcohol, or wood alcohol) is poisonous.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_drug_use
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age
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> 
> On Apr 18, 2013, at 15:10, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
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>>> I think only Indonesia is such a Muslim state. All other Muslim states
>>> impose Islamic law on all people there, regardless of their actual religious
>>> beliefs. India is another state that has religious law that varies depending
>>> upon the religion of the person. But for the most, theocratic states and
>>> religious states always impose one religions's laws on all people in their
>>> territory and citizenship regardless of their religious beliefs.
>> 
>> Dear Stephen,
>> I'm talking about the way in which Islamic states have operated
>> historically, not how they might operate today. Check, for instance,
>> the way the Ottoman Empire was organized.
>>> 
>>> Your alcohol example is actually not the case. Muslim states are completely
>>> Prohibitionist.
>> 
>> Wrong. Even wiki knows better than that. See for instance:
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_in_Iran
>> 
>> Now countries like Saudi Arabia prohibit alcohol to everyone but they
>> are not exactly known for their religious tolerance. But countries
>> like Turkey even produce beer. Alcohol is legal in Iraq as well.
>> 
>> In Malaysia Chinese people, Christians, Buddhists, and Hindus are all
>> allowed to drink alcohol. It is illegal only for Muslims. In Indonesia
>> there are night clubs, restaurants, and pubs that serve alcohol. You
>> can even bring a bottle of alcohol with  into the country legally. .
>> But in certain rural areas it can get you caned.
>> 
>> While you can drink alcohol there on the black market, it is
>>> still technically illegal. To clarify, Muslim states are completely
>>> Prohibitionist regardless of a person's religion.
>> 
>> Sorry, Stephen but I have a PhD in Middle East and South East Asia
>> which focuses on religious minorities in the Islamic context, whereas
>> you get all your information from the internet. Which of us do you
>> think knows what they are talking about?
>> 
>> Susan
>> 
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