The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi and thanks Mike, I see this is a response from BIA, kind of bahá'í cyber intelligence agency :D
Some people defend this guy, even in Facebook pages that have the name "Bahá'í Faith" and thus giving the impression that some bahá'í institution is behind this with the excuse of "seek of truth". Anyway, I think the bahá'í writings support the idea of alien life, and I believe in the "zoo hypothesis". There are aprox.: 3x10^23 = 300 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 stars in this Universe, and my calculation of Drake equation (to the minimal) gives me the following number of planets with civilizations : 10^18= 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 So, it is a matter of time, and a work for another Manifestation of God, the Guardian said in this pilgrim note (non canonical-official): Abraham Lincoln's vision for the United States is comparable to Bahá'u'lláh's vision for the whole world. Now it is possible for a man to conceive of a greater destiny for the United States, a destiny incorporating her in the Federation of World States, encompassing the whole world. This is comparable to that Prophet who may appear after 500,000 years, and who would do the same thing for the planets. Inter-planetary, which corresponds to the incorporation of the United States with other nations. A scientist says there can be beings, not human beings, outside this planet. The cosmos includes many universes, as these are infinite and space is infinite, so divine revelation is infinite. The Revelation of Bahá'u'lláh is the biggest thing for this planet, because it has united it and there is nothing beyond unity. Is there anything beyond world unity for this planet? That is the answer. That is why it marks the coming of age of humanity - world unity. If there were at least one more planet, if science had discovered it, gotten in close touch with it, then a greater Revelation than Bahá'u'lláh would be needed to create the unity of these two planets. (See Page 163 of "Gleanings" reference to: "Fixed Star hath its Planets, and every planet its own creatures.") Revelation has had no beginning and will have no end. But divine revelation has had a beginning and will have an end on this earth. Isaiah prophesied 3,000 years ago the prophecy of the coming of age of humanity; the lamb and the lion will lie down together, the Kingdom of God on earth is nothing but the stage of maturity - the coming of age of humanity. It has also a political connotation and this will be fulfilled at the Coming of the Golden Age. This is for the German believers to realize (Isaiah being a Jewish Prophet.) Christ's prophecy of "Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will be Done, etc.," is a vague, hazy statement, compared to the prophecy of Isaiah. This does not mean Jesus did not make more definite prophecies, just that we did not have them. Justice is the hall-mark of the Kingdom. "Justice filleth the earth as the waters cover the sea," can be a reference to the International House of Justice. World unity cannot be established unless it is founded on Justice. The lamb and the lion lying down together would require Justice. A strong nation might be a lion, and a weak one a lamb. http://bahai-library.com/maxwell_haifa_notes&chapter=1 ________________________________ De: Mike Moum <mike.m...@gmail.com> Para: Baha'i Studies <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Enviado: Jueves, 1 de agosto, 2013 11:16 A.M. Asunto: Fwd: Re: A discussion on Facebook concerning extraterrestrials and Steven Greer The Baha'i Studies Listserv Response from the Institutions about Steven Greer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: A discussion on Facebook concerning extraterrestrials and Steven Greet Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 09:08:16 -0600 From: Baha'i Internet Agency <programdirec...@bia.bahai.org> To: Mike Moum <mike.m...@gmail.com> Dear Baha'i Friend, We apologize for the delay in our response. Thank you for your message. The Baha'i institutions are aware of the activity of Mr. Greer and his ideas are in no way endorsed by them. If you still have concerns about the two believers you mention, you may wish to contact an Auxiliary Board member. With loving greetings, Baha'i Internet Agency > Dear friends, > I am writing to you because I am concerned about a recent thread on Facebook, started by a Baha'i, about alien life on earth and the suppression of evidence by a conspiracy composed of governments and various others, and in which Steven Greer is mentioned. Mr Greer is apparently a Baha'i, served for three years at the World Center in Haifa, and is the head of the "Disclosure Project", which aims to get the government to reveal the evidence it is suppressing. He has also founded an organization, known as CSETI, which solicits money from people in order to fund its research. He is controversial even in the UFO advocated community, and one of the reasons why many ufologists discredit him is that he is a Baha'i. > What I am particularly concerned about is that at least two Baha'is who I know personally, and consider to be well deepened and grounded in the Faith, and who I have found to have good judgment, are enthusiastic supporters of him, and seem to imply, as I see it, that his status as a Baha'i who has served at the World Center lends credibility to his claims. <deleted> There is an ongoing discussion of this topic on the Baha'i Studies email list, and one of the Baha'is there suggested that this topic should be brought to the attention of the Institutions if some of the believers are taking him seriously. Support of Greer's claims of a conspiracy to suppress evidence also implies, in my opinion, criticism of the government. Your office was suggested, so I am writing to you. <deleted> > Warmly, > Mike Moum > U.S. Baha'i ID 0071923 > mike.m...@gmail.com > 937-216-5701 > -- > ------------ > Mike and Dede Moum > Des Moines, Iowa > Visit the Baha'i World at www.bahai.org > Visit the US Baha'i website at > www.us.bahai.org __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-712108-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
