Dear Chetrasena; I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism.
Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only with the dissents and opposition activists. Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion about the fast strengthening relationship between Cambodia and Vietnam. I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their perspective about their relationship with Vietnam. This not include the cases of Khmer Krom people. They have gradually marginalized from Cambodian people after the frequent visits of Vietnamese leaders to meeting both secular powerful men and Buddhist partriarch. The good way to do now is the need to know from the government to publicly disclose or announce the Indochina federation advancement with Vietnam and Loa of Cambodian government under current CPP leadership. KY On Sep 9, 10:01 am, Chetrasena <sdokkokt...@gmail.com> wrote: > ky It is very interesting article. Majority of Cambodian people who > live in the country from the poorest to the richest are happy to live > in this Federation .The three countries have already been federated > just a matter of time to be promulgated officially.From economic stand > point about 80% of businesses are owned and operated by Vietnameses. > Look at the local markets in the city of Phnom Penh such as Psar > Kandal and Chbar Ampeou are exclusively controlled by Vietnamese > vendors. From people to people, Cambodian people in Cambodia are > living are second class of citizen. Cambodian officials in every level > are care of themselves and their families. In Cambodia there is no way > you can sue Vietnamese citizen, if you win you still lose. That is the > price we have to pay. HRP and SRP are just the joke from the eye of > Vietnam.Hanoi has invested too much in this Kingdom.Most Cambodian > officials are drunken by status, wealth monies, but they ignored the > future . My opinion > I supported Federation, let it be sooner or later it is going to be > that way whether you like or not. As I said couple years ago, I asked > for unity from all khmers regardless of their affiliations for the > sake of country survival, but they did not how to work together, they > only know how to divide each other.Hanoi is fully aware that the > serious threat to CPP is Royalist, once this organization dismantled > and brought this institution to the ground, the CPP will survive and > strong. To destroy Royalist party HRP and SRP were acting and > harbouring CPP to achieve the mission.Look at now, it is very easy for > CPP to subdue SRP . All of these are the hard work of CPP and Hanoi > together . If you compare Yellow shirts and Red Shirts in Thailand, > the yellow shirts are backed by institution Monarchy, the Red Shirts > are born from the Red Thai who fought for long time to get rid off > this institution that why their struggle are not supported by EU, USA > and England, they are not the core of democratic movement, now they > are labelled by the government as terrorist groups . You must > understand, Hanoi right now is the best ally of USA, so the CPP and > Pathet Lao, this is the policy of USA to contain China influence, and > Hanoi is pleased with US help to gain couple disputed Islands. > > On Sep 8, 10:27 pm, Khmer Young <khmeryo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Federation Republic of Vietcamlao: An > > Introduction<http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/federation-republic...> > > > Cambodian people and their leaders are active than proactive, self-defensive > > than first striker; and they are peace-lovers until their enemies offer them > > a deal of "peace, security, economic development and many other incentives). > > It's common to see Cambodian politicians attacked each other by both verbal > > and physical. Cambodia politics didn't have much space for political > > maturity since the end of colonialism; and the aura of the cold war placed > > Cambodia into decades of civil war and many of their kins and brothers were > > mercilessly killed by their own hatred and ignorance. The arrival of current > > age of globalization and economic liberalization has not deposited Cambodia > > into a mature account. Many dissents and political opponents are still weary > > to show up and free themselves from the court system. > > > Ope-Ed: Sophan > > S.<http://vietcamlao.blogspot.com/2010/09/federation-republic-of-vietcam...> > > > *Introduction* > > Federal Republic of Vietcamlao recently appeared in a social network website > > named multiply.com posted by a Vietnamese called himself Phong. After that, > > we see this documents spread in many blogs such as ki-media.blogspot.com, > > cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com as well as Vietnamese website based in > > Montreal of Canada vietnamville.ca. Although those blogs/website sometime > > are not referral as an academic source, but they have played important role > > as the medium to bridge all people to debate political, social and economic > > issues. > > > The Vietcamlao plan is not considered a new plan if we review the history of > > Indochina Federation created by French colony. But the current Vietcamlao > > plan is significantly illustrating the mindset of Vietnamese people and > > leaders. *After reviewed the article and utilized online search engine > > effectively, I have found that the Vietnamese preamble at the beginning and > > the confederation article have been totally cut and pasted from other > > websites*. Part of Vietnamese language at the beginning was translated from > > wikipedia's article focused on > > Federation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation>. > > Part of the Confederation Article in English language was cut, pasted and > > edited from another website <http://www.barefootsworld.net/aoc1777.html>. > > The inconsistency of the document illustrates the incomplete work of the > > author, or it is considered just part of author's leisure time spending on > > the internet. *However, the mindset is really substantial for me to further > > study*. More than this, the proposed capital city at Danang is > > geopolitically significant; the drawing flag and its meaning as well as the > > federation map, all are attractive to further study the thought, effort and > > political trend of Vietnamese people and leaders in glancing at their > > neighboring countries: Cambodia and Lao. > > <http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hqgVFA7RYE4/TINCZA8R9zI/AAAAAAAADwU/bHMhcuH...> > > Vietcamlao > > Federal Republic flag, blue symbolizes the sea, red for courage and > > sacrifice to defend the country people, green for forests, plains, 5 stars > > for 5 represents primary state of North, Central, South Vietnam, Laos and > > Cambodia. (http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) > > <http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hqgVFA7RYE4/TINCYzB6XiI/AAAAAAAADwM/afgGg1A...> > > Map > > of the Federal Republic of Vietcamlao with the capital city of Danang > > (http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) > > In searching for truth of this Vietcamlao plan and Vietnamese mindset, we > > will review some Cambodian books such as the "Westward Journey and the > > Indochina in 2000" by Noun Koeun, Cambodia and Indochina Federation by Chan > > Dara translated from French by Thong Ngoun and Pen Nearovi, and Border of > > Cambodia with former Indochina Federation countries, a thesis by Sarin > > Chhak. With this regard, we have many foreign books to read especially some > > online websites such as wikipedia.com to complimentarily add to our > > references. > > > Vietcamlao likely used in the first time for the public for the 2010 annual > > firework competition held in Danang. They named the firework team of Danang > > as Danang's Federal Republic Vietcamlao team appeared in the > > vietnamville.ca. > > > <http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DLrKbBXIauY/TIcZJ5fXJLI/AAAAAAAAEqw/5wMU_Vw...> > > 2010 > > Firework Competition at Danang and the name of Vietcamlao Team > > (http://vietnamville.ca/article.3093) > > Danang is considered the key geopolitical site for Vietnam. French navy > > firstly attacked and successful defeated Vietnamese troops at Danang which > > could be expanded to colonize this country entirely later. During the > > Vietnam war, American troops were importantly stationed at Danang to > > confront with Vietminh from the North. Danang is the middle connector > > between North and South and it has potential strategic point in expanding > > its defending as well as economic investing between the North and the South > > of Vietnam, Lao's ancient capital city of Luang Preah Bang, and Phnom Penh > > of Cambodia. Interestingly, that Vietnamese blogger still called Cambodia > > and Lao as their origin Nam Vang. > > > Capital: Da Nang City as the strategic location and en read more distance to > > the federal capital, about 600km air, extremely convenient en Strategies and > > distance to the federal capital, about 600km air, extremely Convenient. > > > HN - DN 605KM > > > SAIGON - DN 611KM > > > VIENTIANE - DANANG 607.09 KM > > > PHNOM PENH - Business - 601 KM > > (http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) > > > Defending and economic development of Vietcamlao federal republic, the blog > > has significantly exhibited. The wide broad China sea are well stationed the > > heavy warship and Truong Son tunnel is well placed for the ground > > transportation between each state of the federation. > > Lao Viet rail tunnel through the Truong Son > > (http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) East Sea Fleet to > > protect the territorial waters and island > > (http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) Aircraft carrier Navy > > Vietnam Cam federal Laos (VCL) > > (http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) > > Cambodian blogger geeks have effortlessly expressed their opinion. They are > > anonymous comments interesting to further perceive Khmer mindset. Responding > > to the fake or truth of the document, ki-media team placed their question > > "Vietcamlao Federation Republic dominated by Vietnam: a slick blueprint > > scheme?". However, more than 30 anonymous comments thrown at this question > > have majorly shown their worrisome concern. Among those comments, superpower > > and international political players linking to this plan were logically > > uttered. > > > China has no choice but to do everything in her power to prevent Indochina > > federation from becoming a reality for an obvious reason. > > > China's security will face greater challenge with the presence of Indochina > > federation at her doorstep because Vietnam has long historical animosity > > with China, and Vietnam will not, as it did in the seventies, hesitate to > > ally itself with Russia, America or any other Superpower in order to advance > > its Westward expansionist ambition and counter China's influence. > > > Because of that inherent security posture, no superpower has more interest > > to save Cambodia than China. 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