Undeniably, the CPP is smart only in pointing fingers at others, but the trend and assistance to achieve Federation Vietam planned, CPP is absolutely blind. However, CPP will never mention the debts owed Russia and Vietnam because it is exchanged by the achievement of the Vietcamlao Federation.
Bravo CPP... On Sep 12, 1:31 pm, Chetrasena <sdokkokt...@gmail.com> wrote > IN CAMDISC : Did you know that the current Royal Armed Forces > celebrated their anniversary for 60 years +.They claimed that they are > born from Royal Armed Forces since the kingdom became independence and > how about FARK , FANK, DK ARMY . Another issue the current government > is assuming all existing liens, loan and debt from all previous > regimes, we know how much Lon Nol owed American, but we dod not know > how much did Pol Pot owed to China and maybe China forgives all debts > in exchange for the release China from any liability relating to the > killing field that committed by their client KR. There are no > disclosure of cuurent CPP owed RUSSIA and VIETNAM. Who will pay all > these debts ?. > > On Sep 10, 6:54 pm, InCamdisc <incamd...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hun Sen rules Cambodia from 1998 to present. 12 years to be exact. > > > On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Chetrasena <sdokkokt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > KY : Today, the kingdom of Cambodia is moving to another > > > world .Majority of Cambodian people in the country seems to be happy > > > with the CPP under leadership of Somdech Maha Akka Sena Decho Hun > > > Sen . Whether you like or not he is the one whom everybody in the > > > world is doing business with especially American, he will meet the US > > > President this month . Do not forget American soldiers provided > > > training and assisting Hun Sen soldiers more than they did during the > > > Lon Nol .That is the new era of US policy, stability and security are > > > the main concern of USA ..Ceding land to other country, abusing power > > > against it citizen are not American business, they are Cambodian > > > business, there are plenty of dictators around the world .Hun Sen > > > rules Cambodia longer than his predecessors King Sinaouk, Lon Nol and > > > Pol Pot combined .There is no need to blame Hanoi, for the sake of > > > United Vietnam the countries of Lao and Cambodia must be > > > included .Along with rapid expansion policy of Vietnam, the > > > Ferderation will be financed by both Japanese and Korean with the help > > > of American, EU and Australia .The new generation of Cambodian is > > > happy with that move. For stability of the regime, there are two loose > > > institutions that Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist > > > Sanghas. The collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling > > > party helped Vietnam to achieve their plan.because these institutions > > > are still served the backbone of the kingdom The people of the three > > > countries are freely moving from one place to another, no border no > > > visa no restriction .Yes, there are an obstacle for the unity of the > > > three countries too, especially among the stubborn Cambodian people > > > who opposed the plan and being hostile to the regime, but just a small > > > ban of subversive elements soon to be branded as terrorist group whom > > > has no sympathy from other people. The words of insurgencies or > > > rebellions are no longer used as this day for every ruling government. > > > > On Sep 10, 2:04 pm, Khmer Young <khmeryo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Dear Chetrasena; > > > >> I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said > > >> is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I > > >> and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government > > >> under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam > > >> has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian > > >> government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas > > >> Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only > > >> biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, > > >> insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism. > > > >> Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the > > >> rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only > > >> with the dissents and opposition activists. > > > >> Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the > > >> farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all > > >> Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion > > >> about the fast strengthening relationship between Cambodia and > > >> Vietnam. > > > >> I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of > > >> Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in > > >> accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their > > >> perspective about their relationship with Vietnam. This not include > > >> the cases of Khmer Krom people. They have gradually marginalized from > > >> Cambodian people after the frequent visits of Vietnamese leaders to > > >> meeting both secular powerful men and Buddhist partriarch. > > > >> The good way to do now is the need to know from the government to > > >> publicly disclose or announce the Indochina federation advancement > > >> with Vietnam and Loa of Cambodian government under current CPP > > >> leadership. > > > >> KY > > > >> On Sep 9, 10:01 am, Chetrasena <sdokkokt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>> ky It is very interesting article. Majority of Cambodian people who > > >>> live in the country from the poorest to the richest are happy to live > > >>> in this Federation .The three countries have already been federated > > >>> just a matter of time to be promulgated officially.From economic stand > > >>> point about 80% of businesses are owned and operated by Vietnameses. > > >>> Look at the local markets in the city of Phnom Penh such as Psar > > >>> Kandal and Chbar Ampeou are exclusively controlled by Vietnamese > > >>> vendors. From people to people, Cambodian people in Cambodia are > > >>> living are second class of citizen. Cambodian officials in every level > > >>> are care of themselves and their families. In Cambodia there is no way > > >>> you can sue Vietnamese citizen, if you win you still lose. That is the > > >>> price we have to pay. HRP and SRP are just the joke from the eye of > > >>> Vietnam.Hanoi has invested too much in this Kingdom.Most Cambodian > > >>> officials are drunken by status, wealth monies, but they ignored the > > >>> future . My opinion > > >>> I supported Federation, let it be sooner or later it is going to be > > >>> that way whether you like or not. As I said couple years ago, I asked > > >>> for unity from all khmers regardless of their affiliations for the > > >>> sake of country survival, but they did not how to work together, they > > >>> only know how to divide each other.Hanoi is fully aware that the > > >>> serious threat to CPP is Royalist, once this organization dismantled > > >>> and brought this institution to the ground, the CPP will survive and > > >>> strong. To destroy Royalist party HRP and SRP were acting and > > >>> harbouring CPP to achieve the mission.Look at now, it is very easy for > > >>> CPP to subdue SRP . All of these are the hard work of CPP and Hanoi > > >>> together . If you compare Yellow shirts and Red Shirts in Thailand, > > >>> the yellow shirts are backed by institution Monarchy, the Red Shirts > > >>> are born from the Red Thai who fought for long time to get rid off > > >>> this institution that why their struggle are not supported by EU, USA > > >>> and England, they are not the core of democratic movement, now they > > >>> are labelled by the government as terrorist groups . You must > > >>> understand, Hanoi right now is the best ally of USA, so the CPP and > > >>> Pathet Lao, this is the policy of USA to contain China influence, and > > >>> Hanoi is pleased with US help to gain couple disputed Islands. > > > >>> On Sep 8, 10:27 pm, Khmer Young <khmeryo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>> Federation Republic of Vietcamlao: An > > >>>> Introduction<http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/federation-republic...> > > > >>>> Cambodian people and their leaders are active than proactive, > > >>>> self-defensive > > >>>> than first striker; and they are peace-lovers until their enemies > > >>>> offer them > > >>>> a deal of "peace, security, economic development and many other > > >>>> incentives). > > >>>> It's common to see Cambodian politicians attacked each other by both > > >>>> verbal > > >>>> and physical. Cambodia politics didn't have much space for political > > >>>> maturity since the end of colonialism; and the aura of the cold war > > >>>> placed > > >>>> Cambodia into decades of civil war and many of their kins and brothers > > >>>> were > > >>>> mercilessly killed by their own hatred and ignorance. The arrival of > > >>>> current > > >>>> age of globalization and economic liberalization has not deposited > > >>>> Cambodia > > >>>> into a mature account. Many dissents and political opponents are still > > >>>> weary > > >>>> to show up and free themselves from the court system. > > > >>>> Ope-Ed: Sophan > > >>>> S.<http://vietcamlao.blogspot.com/2010/09/federation-republic-of-vietcam...> > > > >>>> *Introduction* > > >>>> Federal Republic of Vietcamlao recently appeared in a social network > > >>>> website > > >>>> named multiply.com posted by a Vietnamese called himself Phong. After > > >>>> that, > > >>>> we see this documents spread in many blogs such as > > >>>> ki-media.blogspot.com, > > >>>> cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com as well as Vietnamese website based > > >>>> in > > >>>> Montreal of Canada vietnamville.ca. Although those blogs/website > > >>>> sometime > > >>>> are not referral as an academic source, but they have played important > > >>>> role > > >>>> as the medium to bridge all people to debate political, social and > > >>>> economic > > >>>> issues. > > > >>>> The Vietcamlao plan is not considered a new plan if we review the > > >>>> history of > > >>>> Indochina Federation created by French colony. But the current > > >>>> Vietcamlao > > >>>> plan is significantly illustrating the mindset of Vietnamese people and > > >>>> leaders. *After reviewed the article and utilized online search engine > > >>>> effectively, I have found that the Vietnamese preamble at the > > >>>> beginning and > > >>>> the confederation article have been totally cut and pasted from other > > >>>> websites*. Part of > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
