joerg Reisenweber <jo...@openmoko.org> wrote: > That's a bold misconception. OM wiki isn't censored, it just gets cleaned of > SPAM and obviously incorrect AND hazardous info, like e.g. somebody suggesting > to run wear tests against NAND to verify its formatting.
But I still think that it would be better for FreeCalypso to have its own "identity" that is separate and independent from Openmoko, i.e., its own mailing list, its own website (wikified or otherwise) etc. As a result of my involvement on another mailing list (on a topic that is totally unrelated to mobile phones), I became aware of this document from the ISO Technical Committee on terminology: http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/ISOTC37toITURA.pdf Simply put, the authors of the above statement from ISO TC37 emphasize the importance of using terms which have a 1:1 mapping to the concepts they are meant to stand for, i.e., 1 concept = 1 term. As you and others have made it perfectly clear on numerous occasions, the term "Openmoko" was never meant to stand for the concept of "free (or open) GSM modem"; instead this term (according to you and other high-standing community members, which I obviously am not) stands for a different concept, namely that of "a free application processor with a black box modem attached as a peripheral". And because the name "Openmoko" rightfully belongs to you and your former boss Sean Moss- Pultz, it is not my place to try to change its meaning. (In fact, Dr. HNS is effectively invoking this term=concept equivalence of "Openmoko" = "free AP with a black box modem as a peripheral" when he asserts the legitimacy of his GTA04 product as a non-downgrade successor to Om products.) But I am working with a completely different concept, namely that of a free GSM device, be it a modem or a complete "dumbphone". And because it is an entirely different concept than that which is mapped by the term "Openmoko", by the principles of ISO TC37 my new concept calls for a new term for referring to it. Hence the name FreeCalypso was born: I came up with this name about this time last year, following exactly the line of reasoning I've just outlined, and my first public announcement of FreeCalypso was this one: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2013-February/068270.html The FreeCalypso project is very much in need of its own web/list home under the ifctf.org domain name, which currently features only an FTP site. My desire is to create a lists.ifctf.org host first, hosting Mailman mailing lists exactly like Openmoko and almost all FOSS projects and technical communities have nowadays - anything else would be seen as substandard, and therefore unattractive to me. A website for FreeCalypso (wikified or not) can be created later, but my first focus is on the lists host on which we can create a proper new mailing list for FreeCalypso. And because I already have my own physical "datacenter" on my own physical turf, I *will not* buy hosting from someone else who would ask me to agree to their TOS or AUP or the like - hence my only option is to use my own physical hardware. A SAS JBOD chassis is already on its way to me from ebay, already paid for; the drives are next - as soon as I gather the cash to buy 6 SAS drives of some non-laughable capacity (I refuse to use SATA, and I desire 6 drives to start with for a raidz2 ZFS configuration - I'll be running OpenSXCE), I will finally have the necessary hw, and will begin the setup/configuration work. VLR, SF _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community