(Deliberately including listmaster.) On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Don Armstrong <d...@debian.org> wrote: > > This thread is off topic for -user. If you want to discuss this further, > please use > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic. > > If you want more information about systemd, see > https://wiki.debian.org/systemd. > > If you want to avoid using systemd, simply don't install the > systemd-sysv package. If something requires systemd-sysv and doesn't > have an alternative dependency on systemd-shim, please file a bug using > reportbug if one hasn't already been filed. > > If you wish to discuss forking Debian, please do so using non-project > resources.
I don't know, Don. If the debian community is not unfriendly to a fork (particularly as an alternative to the acrimony about systemd), why would some discussion here be inappropriate? In my opinion, what should have happened two years ago was a parallel fork of the same sort as kfreebsd, allowing systemd to be worked on by people who want it to work. And then the necessary adjustments overall to keep the two compatible could have been made in a much more cooperative atmosphere. Now I find I'm sorry I was too polite to jump into debian-devel as a debian newb, to try to encourage that kind of thinking back then. (Not that I necessarily think I could have made that much difference.) I think the success with bash => dash may have made many in the community take the changes here too lightly, both from the managerial point of view and the engineering? -- Joel Rees _______________________________________________ D-community-offtopic mailing list D-community-offtopic@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic