On 10 March 2015 at 18:14, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Jan, > It's not a secret - it was disclosed on a public mailing list (this one) > :). > Currently a login is required to be able to compile the list of projects > you are affiliated with, and it is kept pmcs only because it only makes > sense for PMC members. Seccondly, it is not geared for "anonymous" viewing > simply because the data compilation does not scale well. It can handle some > 5,000 people knowing about it, but not 5,000,000 people :). > Thirdly, this is a tool for generating a board report, not an activity > monitor meant for the public. I wrote it to serve the PMCs, and the PMCs > may or may not choose to have mailing list data publicly available, that is > not for me to decide. > OK got it, a very valid reason. > > What we _could_ do publicly is tie some of the gathered information into > the new projects.apache.org site, and provide it through there > (committership/PMC changes for instance as well as release data), but I am > at the edge of what I'm willing to single-handedly do for that project (it > was never meant to be a one-man project), so I'll need someone else to step > in and collaborate with me on that. > Sounds like a hint to me. I would like to see the mail graphs public as they are a a good barometer for the communities. I my skills is suited, I volunteer to help you, even though it will be in form of patches since I believe I do not have karma. Can you give me some pointers offlist (I will come on hipchat later). rgds jan I. > > With regards, > Daniel. > > > On 2015-03-10 18:04, jan i wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> The tool is real awesome, but is there a reason to keep it so secret. >> >> I would like to share the nice mail graphs with my fellow committers, and >> I >> cannot really see any secret in the reports. >> >> My suggestion is, keep it as it is for people who do a login (that is a >> big >> help), but allow a non-login version with (nearly) the same information. >> >> I find tools like this awesome, but do not understand why we try to make a >> lot of this for members or PMCs only, Apache is also about transparency, >> and this tool only collect information (except for the private lists), >> that >> can be found publicly. >> >> >> rgds >> jan I. >> >> >> On 10 March 2015 at 17:42, Kevin A. McGrail <kevin.mcgr...@mcgrail.com> >> wrote: >> >> This is AWESOME! >>> >>> >>> On 3/5/2015 9:31 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: >>> >>> Hi Project chairs, >>>> In yesterday's email to you about your upcoming board report, we forgot >>>> to mention that we have a new tool that can help you in cobbling >>>> together a >>>> report, or just view statistics of the PMCs you are on. >>>> >>>> The new service is located at: https://reporter.apache.org and is PMC >>>> members only. >>>> Should you choose to make use of the board report template in this >>>> system, do remember to add in the important activity bits and any issues >>>> that require board activity. >>>> >>>> Next time Marvin sends you an email, it will include the URL for the >>>> reporter system. >>>> >>>> If you have ANY feedback about this system, don't hesitate to let us >>>> know! :) >>>> >>>> On behalf of the Community Development Project, >>>> Daniel. >>>> >>>> >>> >