> ---------- cut here ---------- > ## PMC changes: > > - Currently 42 PMC members listed in committee-info.txt. > - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months > - Last PMC addition was Dana Freeborn at Fri Mar 27 2015 > > ## LDAP unix group changes: > > - Currently 44 members > - Radu Manole was added on Tue Oct 06 2015 > ---------- cut here ---------- > > Would that satisfy everyone? IMHO, making explicit which "LDAP unix group" is looked at would be useful Since I still don't understand if it's the committers group or PMC group (I expect it to be the committers group)
and if oodt-pmc LDAP does not have the same count as PMC members listed in committee-info.txt, a warning should be added in the first section Regards, Hervé Le dimanche 18 octobre 2015 14:19:00 sebb a écrit : > The app currently says for OODT: > > ---------- cut here ---------- > ## PMC changes: > > - Currently 42 PMC members. > - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months > - Last PMC addition was Dana Freeborn at Fri Mar 27 2015 > > > - Currently 44 committers and 43 PMC members. > - Radu Manole was added to the PMC on Sun Oct 11 2015 > - Radu Manole was added as a committer on Tue Oct 06 2015 > ---------- cut here ---------- > > Note that there are either 42 or 43 PMC members. (*) > I think the above is a lot more confusing than the previous version which > was: > > ---------- cut here ---------- > ## PMC changes: > > - Currently 42 PMC members. > - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months > - Last PMC addition was Dana Freeborn at Fri Mar 27 2015 > > ## LDAP changes: > > - Currently 44 committers and 43 committee group members. > - Radu Manole was added to the committee group on Sun Oct 11 2015 > - Radu Manole was added as a committer on Tue Oct 06 2015 > ---------- cut here ---------- > > As I already wrote, there is now no reason for the LDAP committee > changes to be listed in the board report. > > So what I propose is: > > ---------- cut here ---------- > ## PMC changes: > > - Currently 42 PMC members listed in committee-info.txt. > - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months > - Last PMC addition was Dana Freeborn at Fri Mar 27 2015 > > ## LDAP unix group changes: > > - Currently 44 members > - Radu Manole was added on Tue Oct 06 2015 > ---------- cut here ---------- > > Would that satisfy everyone? > > (*) that is because Radu has not yet been added to committee-info.txt > so is not yet officially a member of the PMC > > On 18 October 2015 at 10:12, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 18 October 2015 at 09:31, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote: > >> from my understanding: > >> - PMC composition is available in 2 forms: committee-info.txt (= golden > >> source) and LDAP xxx-pmc group > > > > The *only* record of current PMC membership is committee-info.txt. > > > > The LDAP committee group (modify_committee.pl) is only used for > > granting karma, e.g. to PMC-private SVN and dist/release. > > > > They should generally have the same members, since all (and perhaps > > only) PMC members should have the karma. > > > > However this is not always the case, and it's important not to confuse the > > two.> > >> - committers list is available only in LDAP as xxx group > > > > The LDAP unix group (modify_unix_group.pl) generally grants karma to SVN. > > However not every PMC uses it - e.g. Commons and Subversion allow any > > ASF committer to commit. > > > >> then instead of displaying: > >> * PMC from committee-info > >> * LDAP info: PMC + committers > >> > >> it would be easier to understand if the structure was more: > >> * PMC info from committee-info (and warning if LDAP PMC info is not > >> consistent) > > > > The consistency check is already done by Whimsy, but I suppose it > > could be repeated here. > > Or the Whimsy page could be linked if there was a discrepancy. > > > >> * committers info (no need to explain that it comes from LDAP) > >> > >> WDYT? > > > > That is basically what it did say before the recent change. > > > > Except that I do think it's necessary to explain that the committer > > (modify_unix_group.pl) info is just an LDAP group. > > > > There is no direct relationship with committers on a project in general. > > Commons and Subversion don't use the group for commit karma. > > Also it's relatively rare that people are dropped from the unix group, > > even if they have stopped contributing. > > So the group does not have any bearing on the current committer base. > > > > Additions to the unix group generally are associated with new > > committers, so that is probably worth reporting. > > > >> Hervé > >> > >> Le vendredi 16 octobre 2015 23:24:16 sebb a écrit : > >>> On 16 October 2015 at 21:08, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > I feel confident that anybody objects to ambiguous information, and > >>> > that > >>> > no > >>> > one will object to improvement. > >>> > >>> I do object to conflating LDAP committee and PMC membership. > >>> The two are completely distinct (although related). > >>> > >>> This is why I changed the text to show LDAP committee rather than PMC > >>> a while back. > >>> At the time, the tool did not analyse the actual PMC membership, only > >>> LDAP. > >>> > >>> However it does now, so the output shows them as distinct items. > >>> > >>> The LDAP committee information is not really relevant to the board, so > >>> could now be dropped from the report skeleton. > >>> > >>> But I think it is completely wrong to imply that changes to the LDAP > >>> committee group have any bearing on PMC membership. > >>> > >>> > Best regards, > >>> > > >>> > Pierre Smits > >>> > > >>> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > >>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > >>> >> Although I acknowledge that the LDAP membership and the project > >>> >> membership > >>> >> might be different in certain weird edge cases, for the purpose of > >>> >> actually > >>> >> generating a board report, I find the current formatting confuses me > >>> >> Every > >>> >> Single Time. > >>> >> > >>> >> Viz: > >>> >> > >>> >> ## PMC changes: > >>> >> - Currently 10 PMC members. > >>> >> - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months > >>> >> - Last PMC addition was Jean-Fran=C3=A7ois Maury at Mon Apr 07 2014 > >>> >> > >>> >> ## LDAP changes: > >>> >> - Currently 26 committers and 10 committee group members. > >>> >> - No new committee group members added in the last 3 months > >>> >> - No new committers added in the last 3 months > >>> >> - Last committer addition was Lyor Goldstein at Thu Apr 30 2015 > >>> >> > >>> >> So, I can tease out of that there's 26 committers, and 10 PMC > >>> >> members, > >>> >> and > >>> >> the latest additions were Jean Francois on April 7, and Lyor on April > >>> >> 30. > >>> >> The rest of that phrasing is confusing to me. committee vs committer > >>> >> and > >>> >> LDAP vs ... whatever. Not sure. > >>> >> > >>> >> Does anybody object to me reformatting this a little, so that it > >>> >> won't > >>> >> confuse me next month? > >>> >> > >>> >> --Rich > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen > >>> >> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
