Sam,
you are conflating the concerns. This is not ON/OFF logic, with a possibly
more than one dimension of shading and positioning one (relatively extreme)
case as the norm for how to interact, is not the way to deal with this.
 (analogy; "Person killed in traffic. Ban all cars.")

Niclas

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > 3. IGNORE IT
> >
> > You don't have to read what other people write, you don't have to
> > internalize it and you may convince others to do the same. For 20 years,
> > this was the number one defense against trolls and poisonous people.
>
> Strongly disagree.
>
> I want an ASF that grows communities.
>
> This is not to be accomplished by giving trolls and poisonous people
> an unchecked playground to perform whatever mischief satisfies
> whatever internal urge they have.  And to tell the targets of this
> individual to just ignore it.
>
> I provided a link previously describing an experience I had.  I hope
> that you can appreciate that "just ignore it" was not the right advice
> for that situation.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
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