Hi all, Aggregating responses to multiple emails:
* Sending an Email ahead of time with a code-snippet that allows keeping the old defaults (If a project wants to keep the old, all they need to do is copy that to their .asf.yaml-file and nothing will change) * About different Prefixes: Absolutely fine with longer prefixes. As I said, just wanted to keep them as short as possible for mobile reading * About breaking automation projects might have set up: I would absolutely doubt there is even a single Apache project that has setup automation based on these emails. I could imagine that there is a hand full of companies paying attention to them, but in this case, I would suggest optimizing for community and not these companies. Chris Von: Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net> Datum: Freitag, 30. Juni 2023 um 15:38 An: dev@community.apache.org <dev@community.apache.org> Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2023, at 2:14 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> > wrote: > > Hi Bertrand, > > In general, I would agree, but the problem is that we currently have a very > large number of unreadable lists. > This is what I’m generally trying to fix. Some projects responded with “If > the defaults are the ways they are, they probably are for a reason … we’ll > stick with the defaults” … problem is I am very sure that there never was a > discussion on how these defaults should look and that they are more that way > for implementation reasons and not community reasons. I know that infra did have discussions and had reasons that were not just tooling. I recall asking about subject length a few years ago. I’m not going to look right now. You might want to ask them. Best, Dave > > Chris > > > Von: Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> > Datum: Freitag, 30. Juni 2023 um 11:11 > An: dev@community.apache.org <dev@community.apache.org> > Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? > Hi, > >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:50 AM Christofer Dutz >> <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote: >> ...I had many discussions with folks at infra about changing the defaults, >> but generally >> met opposition. The general argument was, that there would be bots that >> automatically >> consume these emails and these would be confused if we changed the >> defaults... > > That's a totally valid concern IMO, but there might be two ways to > change the defaults: > > a) change for all lists which don't have specific settings > b) change for newly created lists from now on > > If b) is possible I think that's much safer, and ideally projects can > opt-in to switch existing lists. > >> ...Quite a number of projects have adopted these settings: >> Like StreamPipes: >> https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@streampipes.apache.org:lte=4M > > This looks nice to me, which is unsurprising, as people know I'm a big > fan of Tags Everywhere ;-) > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
