As Andy mentioned, I will give the 4.3.1 xloader a try with the new 4TB SSD drive and an old laptop.
I also have a contact who has just set up a new datacenter in Ireland. I may be able to run a few tests on much bigger machines as well. Otherwise I am very happy with the iron in Finland.as long as they are dedicated machines. On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 12:44 PM Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote: > > > On 11/12/2021 22:02, Marco Neumann wrote: > > Thank you Øyvind for sharing, great to see more tests in the wild. > > > > I did the test with a 1TB SSD / RAID1 / 64GB / ubuntu and the truthy > > dataset and quickly ran out of disk space. It finished the job but did > not > > write any of the indexes to disk due to lack of space. no error messages. > > The 4.3.1 xloader should hopefully address the space issue. > > Andy > > > > > http://www.lotico.com/temp/LOG-95239 > > > > I have now ordered a new 4TB SSD drive to rerun the test possibly with > the > > full wikidata dataset, > > > > I personally had the best experience with dedicated hardware so far (can > be > > in the data center), shared or dedicated virtual compute engines did not > > deliver as expected. And I have not seen great benefits from data center > > grade multicore cpus. But I think they will during runtime in multi user > > settings (eg fuseki). > > > > Best, > > Marco > > > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 9:45 PM Øyvind Gjesdal <oyvin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> I'm trying out tdb2.xloader on an openstack vm, loading the wikidata > truthy > >> dump downloaded 2021-12-09. > >> > >> The instance is a vm created on the Norwegian Research and Education > Cloud, > >> an openstack cloud provider. > >> > >> Instance type: > >> 32 GB memory > >> 4 CPU > >> > >> The storage used for dump + temp files is mounted as a separate 900GB > >> volume and is mounted on /var/fuseki/databases > >> .The type of storage is described as > >>> *mass-storage-default*: Storage backed by spinning hard drives, > >> available to everybody and is the default type. > >> with ext4 configured. At the moment I don't have access to the faster > >> volume type mass-storage-ssd. CPU and memory are not dedicated, and can > be > >> overcommitted. > >> > >> OS for the instance is a clean Rocky Linux image, with no services > except > >> jena/fuseki installed. The systemd service set up for fuseki is > stopped. > >> jena and fuseki version is 4.3.0. > >> > >> openjdk 11.0.13 2021-10-19 LTS > >> OpenJDK Runtime Environment 18.9 (build 11.0.13+8-LTS) > >> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 18.9 (build 11.0.13+8-LTS, mixed mode, sharing) > >> > >> I'm running from a tmux session to avoid connectivity issues and to > capture > >> the output. I think the output is stored in memory and not on disk. > >> On First run I tried to have the tmpdir on the root partition, to > separate > >> temp dir and data dir, but with only 19 GB free, the tmpdir soon was > disk > >> full. For the second (current run) all directories are under > >> /var/fuseki/databases. > >> > >> $JENA_HOME/bin/tdb2.xloader --loc /var/fuseki/databases/wd-truthy > --tmpdir > >> /var/fuseki/databases/tmp latest-truthy.nt.gz > >> > >> The import is so far at the "ingest data" stage where it has really > slowed > >> down. > >> > >> Current output is: > >> > >> 20:03:43 INFO Data :: Add: 502,000,000 Data (Batch: 3,356 / > >> Avg: 7,593) > >> > >> See full log so far at > >> https://gist.github.com/OyvindLGjesdal/c1f61c0f7d3ab5808144d9455cd383ab > >> > >> Some notes: > >> > >> * There is a (time/info) lapse in the output log between the end of > >> 'parse' and the start of 'index' for Terms. It is unclear to me what is > >> happening in the 1h13 minutes between the lines. > >> > >> 22:33:46 INFO Terms :: Elapsed: 50,720.20 seconds > [2021/12/10 > >> 22:33:46 CET] > >> 22:33:52 INFO Terms :: == Parse: 50726.071 seconds : > >> 6,560,468,631 triples/quads 129,331 TPS > >> 23:46:13 INFO Terms :: Add: 1,000,000 Index (Batch: 237,755 / > >> Avg: 237,755) > >> > >> * The ingest data step really slows down on the "ingest data stage": At > the > >> current rate, if I calculated correctly, it looks like > PKG.CmdxIngestData > >> has 10 days left before it finishes. > >> > >> * When I saw sort running in the background for the first parts of the > job, > >> I looked at the `sort` command. I noticed from some online sources that > >> setting the environment variable LC_ALL=C improves speed for `sort`. > Could > >> this be set on the ProcessBuilder for the `sort` process? Could it > >> break/change something? I see the warning from the man page for `sort`. > >> > >> *** WARNING *** The locale specified by the environment affects > >> sort order. Set LC_ALL=C to get the traditional sort order that > >> uses native byte values. > >> > >> Links: > >> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/445233 > >> > >> > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/579251/how-to-use-parallel-to-speed-up-sort-for-big-files-fitting-in-ram > >> > >> > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7074430/how-do-we-sort-faster-using-unix-sort > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Øyvind > >> > > > > > -- --- Marco Neumann KONA
