Heya Gantigmaa,

Apologies for the (very) late reply!

Now that 3.6 has been released and reviewers have a bit more time I will be
picking up this KIP again. I am more than happy to add useful new metrics
to the KIP, I would just ask for a couple of days to review your pull
request and I will come back to you.

Best,
Christo

On Mon, 25 Sept 2023 at 10:49, Gantigmaa Selenge <gsele...@redhat.com>
wrote:

> Hi Christo,
>
> Thank you for writing the KIP.
>
> I recently raised a PR to add metrics for tracking remote segment deletions
> (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14375) but realised those metrics
> were not mentioned in the original KIP-405 or KIP-930. Do you think these
> would make sense to be added to this KIP and get included in the
> discussion?
>
> Regards,
> Gantigmaa
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 1:53 PM Christo Lolov <christolo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Heya Kamal,
> >
> > Thank you for going through the KIP and for the question!
> >
> > I have been thinking about this and as an operator I might find it the
> most
> > useful to know all three of them actually.
> >
> > I would find knowing the size in bytes useful to determine how much disk
> I
> > might need to add temporarily to compensate for the slowdown.
> > I would find knowing the number of records useful, because using the
> > MessagesInPerSec metric I would be able to determine how old the records
> > which are facing problems are.
> > I would find knowing the number of segments useful because I would be
> able
> > to correlate this with whether I need to change
> > *remote.log.manager.task.interval.ms
> > <http://remote.log.manager.task.interval.ms> *to a lower or higher
> value.
> >
> > What are your thoughts on the above? Would you find some of them more
> > useful than others?
> >
> > Best,
> > Christo
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 at 16:43, Kamal Chandraprakash <
> > kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Christo,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the KIP!
> > >
> > > The proposed tiered storage metrics are useful. The unit mentioned in
> the
> > > KIP is the number of records.
> > > Each topic can have varying amounts of records in a segment depending
> on
> > > the record size.
> > >
> > > Do you think having the tier-lag by number of segments (or) size of
> > > segments in bytes will be useful
> > > to the operator?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kamal
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 8:56 PM Christo Lolov <christolo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all!
> > > >
> > > > I would like to start a discussion for KIP-963: Upload and delete lag
> > > > metrics in Tiered Storage (
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/sZGzDw
> > > ).
> > > >
> > > > The purpose of this KIP is to introduce a couple of metrics to track
> > lag
> > > > with respect to remote storage from the point of view of Kafka.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for leaving a review!
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Christo
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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