Yeah, if users are using Kryo directly, they should be insulated from a
Spark-side change because of shading.
However this also entails updating (unshaded) Chill from 0.8.x to 0.9.x. I
am not sure if that causes problems for apps.

Normally I'd avoid any major-version change in a minor release. This one
looked potentially entirely internal.
I think if there are any doubts, we can leave it for Spark 3. There was a
bug report that needed a fix from Kryo 4, but it might be minor after all.


On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:05 AM Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com> wrote:

> it is mainly a problem because for reasons of sanity one wants to keep
> single kryo/chill version, and kryo/chill could be used in other places for
> somewhat persistent serialization by the user.
>
> i know, this is not spark's problem... it is the users problem. but i
> would find it odd to change kryo in a minor upgrade in general. not that it
> cannot be done.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>> See:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-23131
>> https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/20301#issuecomment-358473199
>>
>> I expected a major Kryo upgrade to be problematic, but it worked fine. It
>> picks up a number of fixes:
>> https://github.com/EsotericSoftware/kryo/releases/tag/kryo-parent-4.0.0
>>
>> It might be good for Spark 2.4.
>>
>> Its serialized format isn't entirely compatible though. I'm trying to
>> recall whether this is a problem in practice. We don't guarantee wire
>> compatibility across mismatched Spark versions, right?
>>
>> But does the Kryo serialized form show up in any persistent stored form?
>> I don't believe any normal output, even that of saveAsObjectFile, uses it.
>>
>> I'm wondering if I am not recalling why this would be a problem to update?
>>
>> Sean
>>
>
>

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