On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 03:41:14PM +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
> If I try to summarise all the comments and discussions, the change proposal, 
> as it is, is not perfect. But each participant can be happy with the 
> resulting configuration.
> 
> - desktops, because nothing changes for them
> - cloud, they use cloud-init to configure hostname anyway on first boot with 
> the exception of vagrant, where localhost can be useful
> - CoreOS, use localhost already, but it resolves the OpenShift issue
> - IoT, may have so set hostname explicitly, but don’t have any objection 
> - Server, usually set hostname explicitly according to some local naming 
> convention or use DHCP/revers DNS, gain the option to use some 
> post-installation tools, and otherwise don’t care anyway or doesn’t matter if 
> it is fedora or localhost
> 
> So, it is fine to go with it.
> 
> > For desktops, we'd prefer to have the fallback
> > hostname be "fedora", but fixing it so that a randomly generated
> > string is appended would make it work properly in the multi-machine
> > home network case (which is commonplace these days).
> 
> Attaching a somehow generated unique string would be really an improvement. 
> But that would be another Change Proposal, maybe for F38.
> 
> This would affect desktops in particular. All others should be given the 
> option to switch to this unique default or to leave it at localhost. 
> 
> I think for servers a unique default would be useful, especially for a bulk 
> creation of server VMs in an un-managed environment. But we would have to 
> change the default naming of the first Volume Group from fedora_{hostname} to 
> something like fedora_system to avoid a too complex VG naming. 

Agree to all of this. Thanks for the summary!

-- 
Matthew Miller
<mat...@fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
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