Hello Vojtech and Tony,

> has very low crest factor, so the effective transmitted power will be

An example, with a 100 watts HF transceiver, keeping linear:
* you can transmit 10 watts of MT63,
* you can transmit 76 watts of Contestia.

73
Patrick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vojtech Bubnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:08 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Contestia 1K vs MT63?


> Hi Tony.
>
> Even though the simulation results look promising for MT63, they do
> not take real HAM SSB transceiver into account. SSB PA of an average
> HAM TRX is usually not very linear and the many carriers of MT63 will
> mix with each other, which will show up as an added noise. Also MT63
> has very low crest factor, so the effective transmitted power will be
> much lower than of Contestia if you do not overdrive the TX. I bet you
> will be better of to use Contestia on the air using let's say an
> average 100W YaeComWood.
>
> 73, Vojtech
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I was playing with the Contestia mode in an attempt to duplicate the
> wpm rate of MT63. I configured Contestia with 16 tones and a bandwidth
> of 1K. The sensitivity of the two seemed to be the same and the wpm
> rate appeared to be close.
>>
>> I then tested both modes with the HF path simulator dialed-in for
> selective fading with the SNR set a few db above the minimum decode
> threshold. As you can see below, print was better with MT63.
>>
>> The deep fades caused garbled characters with Contestia and it would
> appear the better copy with MT63 is a result of the redundancy built
> into the mode.
>>
>> I'm not sure if that's an accurate assessment as to why there is a
> difference, but it would seem so. Wonder if anyone can shed some light
> on this.
>>
>> Tony, K2MO
>>
>>
>> Path Simulation : Selective Fading
>> SNR :  -3db / -6db
>>
>>
>> Contestia 1K / 16 tone
>>
>> SNR -3db
>>
>> THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> THE QUICK BROWN FOS OVER TH- >G
>> THE BROWN FOXMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> THE QUICRO,N FOX JUMPS OVELAZY DOG
>>
>> SNR -6db
>>
>> TE QUCK BROW FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> THE QUG2NOWNS YVER THOEG
>> THE BROWN FO#UBR OVER TE LAZY DOG
>> THE QUIC^_^N FOX JUMPS OVELAZY DOG
>>
>>
>> MT63 1K
>>
>> SNR -3db
>>
>> *DE K2MO*
>> THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> *EOT*
>>
>> SNR -6db
>>
>> *DE K2M
>> TH QUICK &AOWN FOX JUOP; OVrR THE LAZY ROG
>> THE Q%ICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> THE QUICK BROWNFOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
>> *EOT*
>>
>
>
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