Hi Robert: Would they allow dual-booting? I’m not saying that you can’t get ESS to work under Cygwin. On the contrary, it did work at one time so it certainly can be done. However, that is not currently supported so you are on your own. But, perhaps there are others in the same straight-jacket here on ess-help that might be willing to help? Please speak up if so!
In regards to WSL, that came out after I permanently switched to macOS. But, I think it is worth a try too. Since you will be running pure Linux binaries, then it might work out of the box. And maybe there are more people here interested in WSL than Cygwin. Also, the more recent WSL 2 (released in 2019) sounds like it is more compatible than WSL 1 (released in 2016). -- Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus From: Robert Lerche <rler...@pacificbiosciences.com> Date: Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 11:40 AM To: Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu>, Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalib...@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [R-win] Difficulty installing R packages under Windows 11 / Cygwin ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use caution when clicking on links or opening attachments. ________________________________ Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Alas, I am using a company-provided laptop. I would much prefer to run Linux as I do on my personal system but that is not in the cards. I have plenty of access to Linux servers and of course I can run things there but it’s a bit inconvenient. I thought about using WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux). I have some experience with early versions of that [which leads me to avoid it 😊 ]. It is my fate to cope with legacy junk on projects that were late when I joined. Ah well it’s a living. From: Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 9:28 AM To: Robert Lerche <rler...@pacificbiosciences.com>; Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalib...@gmail.com>; ess-help (ess-help@r-project.org) <ess-help@r-project.org> Subject: Re: [R-win] Difficulty installing R packages under Windows 11 / Cygwin [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] Be mindful when clicking links or attachments Hi Robert: There was a time when we supported ESS under Cygwin. In other words, run elisp code assuming UNIX/Linux rather than Windows even though Windows is the OS. However, that was a long time ago: at least 10 years since I last tried it. Cygwin has largely fallen out of fashion since you can now so easily install Ubuntu on typical hardware: something that has markedly improved since 2013. Therefore, I would not expect Cygwin support to work out of the box since there has been no recent testing. Also, Windows is not very popular with R users since there is no forking support for the parallel package. So switching to Linux is well worth it. I used to run Windows inside VirtualBox when I needed to do PC stuff like Office and iTunes (before switching to macOS and never looking back ;o) -- Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus From: ESS-bugs <mailman-boun...@stat.ethz.ch<mailto:mailman-boun...@stat.ethz.ch>> on behalf of Robert Lerche <rler...@pacificbiosciences.com<mailto:rler...@pacificbiosciences.com>> Date: Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 11:04 AM To: Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalib...@gmail.com<mailto:tomas.kalib...@gmail.com>>, ess-b...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-b...@r-project.org> <ess-b...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-b...@r-project.org>> Cc: ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org> <ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org>>, r-wind...@r-project.org<mailto:r-wind...@r-project.org> <r-wind...@r-project.org<mailto:r-wind...@r-project.org>> Subject: RE: [R-win] Difficulty installing R packages under Windows 11 / Cygwin ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use caution when clicking on links or opening attachments. ________________________________ Let me try raw text: Tomas, my thanks for your prompt and useful response. I followed your instructions and the Windows (MinGW/MSYS2) R and ggplot2 of course work perfectly well launched from a Cygwin bash shell. Alas, ESS inside Cygwin Emacs 29.1 doesn't quite work, launching an R process gives an error and although R is running with stdin/stdout directed to the Emacs buffer there is no tab completion. [background for the benefit of ess-b...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-b...@r-project.org>] I recently received a new Windows 11 laptop from our IT department and I'm trying to recreate my R environment (Cygwin/Emacs/ESS/R/ggplot2). Originally I installed R 4.3.0 as packaged in Cygwin's setup.exe utility (in the Math section). I was unable to add ggplot2. Tomas kindly pointed me to the pre-built Windows binaries and as expected installing it and ggplot2 went smoothly. I perused https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ess.r-project.org/index.php?Section=home__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKnpbUlLT$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/ess.r-project.org/index.php?Section=home__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKnpbUlLT$> and pulled the latest ESS via git clone. Make worked but now when I try to launch R inside Emacs [with (require 'ess-r-mode) in my .emacs file] an error message appears: ess-r--init-error-handler: Wrong type argument: listp, "Caused by error: R error during background ESS command base::tryCatch( base::local({ base::source('/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess/etc/ESSR/R/.load.R', local=TRUE) #define load.ESSR .ess.ESSR.load('/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess/etc/ESSR/R') }), error = function(cnd) { msg <- paste0('ESSR::ERROR \"', conditionMessage(cnd), '\"') writeLines(msg) } ) Error: cannot open the connection" Following this the buffer is live but tab completion fails. I attach the ess build log: G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~ $ git clone https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/emacs-ess/ESS.git__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKr2dFRa2$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/emacs-ess/ESS.git__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKr2dFRa2$> ess-latest Cloning into 'ess-latest'... remote: Enumerating objects: 44632, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (1252/1252), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (424/424), done. remote: Total 44632 (delta 904), reused 1152 (delta 827), pack-reused 43380 Receiving objects: 100% (44632/44632), 27.28 MiB | 1.76 MiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (33688/33688), done. G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~ $ cd ess-latest/ G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~/ess-latest $ make ********************* VERSIONS ************************** GNU Emacs 29.1 ESS 18.10.3snapshot ESSR 1.8 ********************************************************* make -C lisp all make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' which: no wget in (/cygdrive/c/Program Files/R/R-4.3.2/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Oracle/Java/javapath:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/OpenSSH:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/PuTTY:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/GnuPG/bin:/cygdrive/c/Users/rlerche/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps:/usr/lib/lapack) which: no wget in (/cygdrive/c/Program Files/R/R-4.3.2/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Oracle/Java/javapath:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/OpenSSH:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/PuTTY:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/GnuPG/bin:/cygdrive/c/Users/rlerche/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps:/usr/lib/lapack) test -f ../etc/.IS.RELEASE || /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/curl https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://raw.githubusercontent.com/JuliaEditorSupport/julia-emacs/master/julia-mode.el__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKo9c7zFD$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/raw.githubusercontent.com/JuliaEditorSupport/julia-emacs/master/julia-mode.el__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKo9c7zFD$> > julia-mode.el % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 40906 100 40906 0 0 144k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 146k test -f ../etc/.IS.RELEASE || /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/curl https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://raw.githubusercontent.com/JuliaEditorSupport/julia-emacs/master/julia-mode-latexsubs.el__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKmcNaJ6x$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/raw.githubusercontent.com/JuliaEditorSupport/julia-emacs/master/julia-mode-latexsubs.el__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKmcNaJ6x$> > julia-mode-latexsubs.el % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 442k 100 442k 0 0 1292k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 1296k Computing dependencies emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-custom.el In toplevel form: ess-custom.el:324:2: Warning: custom-declare-variable `ess-startup-directory' docstring has wrong usage of unescaped single quotes (use \= or different quoting) ess-custom.el:1401:2: Warning: custom-declare-variable `ess-post-run-hook' docstring has wrong usage of unescaped single quotes (use \= or different quoting) emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-utils.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-bugs-l.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-tracebug.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-inf.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-mode.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-bugs-d.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-help.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-s-lang.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-rd.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-r-syntax.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-roxy.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-r-completion.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-r-package.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-trns.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-r-xref.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-r-mode.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-gretl.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-jags-d.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-julia.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-r-flymake.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-rdired.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-sas-a.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-sas-l.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-sas-d.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-sp6-d.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile essd-els.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-toolbar.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile ess-site.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile julia-mode-latexsubs.el emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile julia-mode.el Generating ess-autoloads.el emacs -batch -Q --eval "(progn\ (setq make-backup-files nil)\ (setq generated-autoload-file (expand-file-name \"ess-autoloads.el\"))\ (setq find-file-visit-truename t)\ (update-directory-autoloads default-directory))" Package autoload is deprecated INFO Scraping files for ess-autoloads.el... INFO Scraping files for ess-autoloads.el...done make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' make -C doc all make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/doc' making Info documentation... makeinfo ess.texi mv -f ess.info info/ makeinfo --no-validate --plaintext --no-split -o - readme.texi \ | perl -pe 'last if /^Concept Index/;' > ../README makeinfo --no-validate --plaintext --no-split -o - announc.texi \ | perl -pe 'last if /^Concept Index/;' > ../ANNOUNCE makeinfo --no-validate --plaintext --no-split -o - news.texi > ../NEWS makeinfo --no-validate --plaintext --no-split -o - onews.texi > ../ONEWS make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/doc' make -C etc all make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/etc' make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'. make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/etc' cd lisp; make ess-autoloads.el make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' make[1]: 'ess-autoloads.el' is up to date. make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~/ess-latest $ make install ********************* VERSIONS ************************** GNU Emacs 29.1 ESS 18.10.3snapshot ESSR 1.8 ********************************************************* make -C lisp all make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'. make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' make -C doc all make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/doc' make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'. make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/doc' make -C etc all make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/etc' make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'. make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/etc' cd lisp; make ess-autoloads.el make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' make[1]: 'ess-autoloads.el' is up to date. make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' mkdir -p /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess cp -p -R ./* /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess/ G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~/ess-latest $ exit -----Original Message----- From: ESS-bugs <ess-bugs-boun...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-bugs-boun...@r-project.org>> On Behalf Of ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 8:13 AM To: Robert Lerche <rler...@pacificbiosciences.com<mailto:rler...@pacificbiosciences.com>> Subject: RE: [R-win] Difficulty installing R packages under Windows 11 / Cygwin [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] Be mindful when clicking links or attachments After content filtering, the message was empty [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ ESS-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/ess-help