It's agendas like that, that segregate the information and keep it locked up in secret files that only the "3l33t" you speak of have access too. A substantial technological selling point for the current governmental administration recently placed in office. I am not disputing your professional accreditation or your more-than-real passion for information disclosure. You have your reasons, and everyone should respect that. I am just merely asking you to look at where you posted your reply. On FD. In my last 3 years of network administration and network security, I have no need to go to any "site" so you say. I just go to my inbox and download my daily FD, and Bugtraq emails. It's all there, in plain text format. Maybe, if your agenda is a prominent as your reply made it sound, you should consider shutting down FD and the rest of the lists.
In the meantime, hax0rs, phr34k3rs, FXPers carry on. I need your headaches, haxs, Bots and issues. Otherwise, who knows how I'll pay my bills. And I do get bored extremely easy. And if you all feel so inclined, post your tactics and methods to a website, so I can register an account with a bogus email and educate myself. No hard feelings n3td3v, this isn't a flame. Jim Tuttle Tuttle Information Systems. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n3td3v Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:06 AM To: Todd Towles; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:53:44 +0000, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:41:20 -0600, Todd Towles > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it is given that posting to FD does give a site exposure (good > > and bad). But I wouldn't say that FD was the cause of it..it was the > > illegal activity that was the cause of it. We all know SCC does some > > underground stuff and they post here each time they move. So...I > > wouldn't blame the FD list for anything. > > I wouldn't use the word blame? I think its a good thing if > Full-Disclosure is helping to catch online criminals. I don't know if > you like malicious hackers and other criminals, but yeah.... I dislike > them. I would do anything in my power to stop online crime, from > scriptkiddie stuff, to sex stuff,spam,scams, fraud, terrorism and back > again. > > I have no space for anyone thinking they are elite and all the other > hacker scene crap. Its time to clamp down on the BS thats on the net. > > If I was in gov, I would shut a site down that looks remotely > hax0rish, even if they've done nothing wrong. All these crews and > hacker groups, fk them all. The net needs zero tollerence with online > crime. Govs should have the authority to close anything done because > they feel like it, without needing to prove shit. > > I would even close IRC channels. Hackphreak on undernet looks > harmless, but fk that. Close it anyway, its time to get a tighter grip > on things. > > Thanks,n3td3v Same for zone-h.org, close the crap down.. f**k anything that looks remotely hax0rish. zero-tollerence!! Thanks,n3td3v _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
