Wow. Just...wow.
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org>wrote: > ** > If you really want some entertainment, you should try reading the "dating" > article. It includes such mind-blowing revelations as: > > * Teenagers and tweens have been described as dating. > > * There are reports that guys are asking out girls for dates by text > messaging. > > * When young people are in school, they have a lot of access to people > their own age, and don't need tools such as online websites or dating > services. > > And of course lots of great gender stereotypes like: > > * During much of human history... women "connived to trade beauty and sex > for affluence and status". > > * Educated women in many countries including Italy and Russia and the > United States often find it difficult to have a career as well as raise a > family; many delay finding a mate and having children and wonder if they're > too accomplished that they won't be as appealing to men. > > It also includes lots of random advice like: > > * dating at a movie is advisable only if followed by a drink afterwards. > > * men are attracted to 'curls', 'ribbons', 'bright colors', and women > should 'avoid sarcasm.' > > * Women can use 'pseudo-infantile motions such as the head-cock' and gaze > intensely with widened eyes and laugh often, touch, and move in ways to > emphasize their body's roundness, such as shrugging their shoulders or sit > hugging their knees, to mimic buttock imagery. > > I swear this stuff is in the article. I couldn't make this up! > > And to illustrate the "Dating worldwide" section, they use the painting > "The Rape Of The Sabines: The Abduction" which shows a guy with a sword > carrying off a scantily clad damsel in distress. I guess our editors have > some unique ideas on dating etiquette. > > Ryan Kaldari > > > On 10/24/11 6:00 PM, Gillian White wrote: > > Apart from any content problems, the article had no context. It was not > linked to what should be regarded as its parents. And that lack of > coherence, combined with its specific terminology made it largely > incomprehensible to people unfamiliar with American educational systems, > aside from its social practices. For example, it is by no means universal > that students live in residential colleges while attending university. I had > a go at giving it some context so readers can go from one article to the > next (specifically, from "courtship" to "dating" to "college dating") but I > agree that it would be better if it was renamed, as the issues that are > distinctive to dating in college/university could then be developed. > > Gillian > > On 25 October 2011 06:11, Sue Gardner <sgard...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> Yeah, personally I think the subject is notable. There has been tons >> of academic research and popular history written about the history of >> dating, college dating, the invention of the 'teenager,' etc. Even >> just within the United States. >> >> I think I did a radio series on this once -- IIRC, Beth Bailey was a >> really great source. She wrote this fascinating book: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Front-Porch-Back-Seat-Twentieth-Century/dp/0801839351 >> . >> Susan J. Douglas was good too, as well as Stephanie Coontz and Barbara >> Ehrenreich. They are all American, though. Lots has been written about >> the UK too, but I'm not sure about other cultures/countries. >> >> Thanks, >> Sue >> >> >> -- >> Sue Gardner >> Executive Director >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> 415 839 6885 office >> 415 816 9967 cell >> >> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in >> the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! >> >> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate >> >> >> >> On 24 October 2011 11:16, Daniel and Elizabeth Case >> <danc...@frontiernet.net> wrote: >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Nathan >> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:13 PM >> > To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects >> > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Am I crazy? >> > >> > I question whether "college dating" deserves an article to begin with. >> > If it does, which the text of the article doesn't at all establish, >> > the current article has a pretty fatal case of systemic bias. >> > >> > >> > On the surface I tend to agree, but then I read the AfD: >> > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/College_dating >> > >> > Daniel Case >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gendergap mailing list >> > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing > listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org> Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.sarahstierch.com/
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