...and one more thing - it's also the straight peoples guide to dating. And the majority of queer mentions go into internet dating with specific focus on gay men (the word "lesbian" is used once, a mention of transexuals is there twice but the same fact in both places - and it's in conjunction with eunuchs in India, and bi/pan/whatnot isn't listed at all).
Homosexuality is also called an "alternative arrangement." Heh! -Sarah who has recently become fascinated by the "gay agenda" article only to find out there isn't a "feminist agenda" article.... On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com>wrote: > ....I also noticed the menu in the top right lists dating in the abuse > section (and activities). > > I understand that abuse can take place during dating (and any other > relationship at that) but does it really merit being in the abuse section? > Next to "child" "elderly" and "domestic?" > > If you're dating someone and you're abusing them I consider it domestic > (Intimate Partner Violence, etc.)....but, I haven't sat down and read > references about 'dating abuse' or whatever (and I probably won't right > now..). Heck, the word "abuse" isn't even used in the dating article. > > If abuse is dating and I need to stop being sarcastic and wear more bright > colors..I suppose I've been doing all of this wrong after all...(now wonder > I'm single! ;-) ) > > Sarah > > > > > > On 25 October 2011 16:24, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Wow. >>> >>> Just...wow. >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org>wrote: >>> >>>> If you really want some entertainment, you should try reading the >>>> "dating" article. It includes such mind-blowing revelations as: >>>> >>>> * Teenagers and tweens have been described as dating. >>>> >>>> * There are reports that guys are asking out girls for dates by text >>>> messaging. >>>> >>>> * When young people are in school, they have a lot of access to people >>>> their own age, and don't need tools such as online websites or dating >>>> services. >>>> >>>> And of course lots of great gender stereotypes like: >>>> >>>> * During much of human history... women "connived to trade beauty and >>>> sex for affluence and status". >>>> >>>> * Educated women in many countries including Italy and Russia and the >>>> United States often find it difficult to have a career as well as raise a >>>> family; many delay finding a mate and having children and wonder if they're >>>> too accomplished that they won't be as appealing to men. >>>> >>>> It also includes lots of random advice like: >>>> >>>> * dating at a movie is advisable only if followed by a drink afterwards. >>>> >>>> * men are attracted to 'curls', 'ribbons', 'bright colors', and women >>>> should 'avoid sarcasm.' >>>> >>>> * Women can use 'pseudo-infantile motions such as the head-cock' and >>>> gaze intensely with widened eyes and laugh often, touch, and move in ways >>>> to >>>> emphasize their body's roundness, such as shrugging their shoulders or sit >>>> hugging their knees, to mimic buttock imagery. >>>> >>>> I swear this stuff is in the article. I couldn't make this up! >>>> >>>> And to illustrate the "Dating worldwide" section, they use the painting >>>> "The Rape Of The Sabines: The Abduction" which shows a guy with a sword >>>> carrying off a scantily clad damsel in distress. I guess our editors have >>>> some unique ideas on dating etiquette. >>>> >>>> Ryan Kaldari >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/24/11 6:00 PM, Gillian White wrote: >>>> >>>> Apart from any content problems, the article had no context. It was not >>>> linked to what should be regarded as its parents. And that lack of >>>> coherence, combined with its specific terminology made it largely >>>> incomprehensible to people unfamiliar with American educational systems, >>>> aside from its social practices. For example, it is by no means universal >>>> that students live in residential colleges while attending university. I >>>> had >>>> a go at giving it some context so readers can go from one article to the >>>> next (specifically, from "courtship" to "dating" to "college dating") but I >>>> agree that it would be better if it was renamed, as the issues that are >>>> distinctive to dating in college/university could then be developed. >>>> >>>> Gillian >>>> >>>> On 25 October 2011 06:11, Sue Gardner <sgard...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, personally I think the subject is notable. There has been tons >>>>> of academic research and popular history written about the history of >>>>> dating, college dating, the invention of the 'teenager,' etc. Even >>>>> just within the United States. >>>>> >>>>> I think I did a radio series on this once -- IIRC, Beth Bailey was a >>>>> really great source. She wrote this fascinating book: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Front-Porch-Back-Seat-Twentieth-Century/dp/0801839351 >>>>> . >>>>> Susan J. Douglas was good too, as well as Stephanie Coontz and Barbara >>>>> Ehrenreich. They are all American, though. Lots has been written about >>>>> the UK too, but I'm not sure about other cultures/countries. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Sue >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sue Gardner >>>>> Executive Director >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>> >>>>> 415 839 6885 office >>>>> 415 816 9967 cell >>>>> >>>>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in >>>>> the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! >>>>> >>>>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 24 October 2011 11:16, Daniel and Elizabeth Case >>>>> <danc...@frontiernet.net> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>> > From: Nathan >>>>> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:13 PM >>>>> > To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Am I crazy? >>>>> > >>>>> > I question whether "college dating" deserves an article to begin >>>>> with. >>>>> > If it does, which the text of the article doesn't at all establish, >>>>> > the current article has a pretty fatal case of systemic bias. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On the surface I tend to agree, but then I read the AfD: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/College_dating >>>>> > >>>>> > Daniel Case >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Gendergap mailing list >>>>> > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing >>>> listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org> >>> Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American >>> Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> >>> and >>> Sarah Stierch Consulting >>> *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* >>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>> http://www.sarahstierch.com/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > > > > -- > GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org> > Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American > Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> > and > Sarah Stierch Consulting > *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.sarahstierch.com/ > > -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org> Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.sarahstierch.com/
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