On 10/26/11 7:19 AM, ChaoticFluffy wrote: > The only way to remove these people that has worked in the past has > been via arbcom, with enablers screaming bloody murder the whole way.
Yes, I've been down that road before, but I will never do it again. The only arbcom case I ever pursued was against a "vested contributor" who was clearly misogynistic and driving away other editors. Even though I was uninvolved in the dispute that led to the ArbCom case, I was pilloried, harassed, baited, name-called, and threatened with a lawsuit solely because I was willing to confront this editor's behavior and present evidence against them. This editor's friends overwhelmed the ArbCom discussion with absurd conspiracy theories about me, and made their best effort to make my life miserable for the duration of the ArbCom proceeding (including trying to drum up support to have me de-admined). After all was said and done, all of my evidence and arguments were ignored and the editor was banned for a year due to the legal threat. So I'm definitely not going to pursue ArbCom again, and there's no way I'm going to give a vested editor a 6-month block (which would immediately be reversed), so I guess the only "solution" is to just be silent and allow their abusive behavior to continue. Issuing multiple warnings in these cases is a joke (they are just removed with snarky edit summaries) and peacefully discussing the issue gets absolutely nowhere (at least from my experience), apart from momentarily deflecting their invective towards myself instead of their original target. A friend of mine works as a moderator for Huffington Post and I have to admit that I am quite jealous of their system. The moderators are free to enforce civility and use their best judgement to keep out trolls and trouble-makers. I imagine this is one of the reasons that they have such a vibrant community with a healthy gender balance (according to my friend). Ryan Kaldari _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
