Pete,

Please suggest a revised wording that you feel would be clearer. Then we
can request that the board adopt it and amend the resolution accordingly.

Andreas

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The resolution wording is:
>
>>
>> ---o0o---
>>
>> We feel that it is important and ethical to obtain subject consent for
>> the use of such media, in line with our special mission as an educational
>> and free project. We feel that seeking consent from an image's subject is
>> especially important in light of the proliferation of uploaded photographs
>> from other sources, such as Flickr, where provenance is difficult to trace
>> and subject consent difficult to verify.
>>
>> ---o0o---
>>
>> I don't see anything ambiguous about that.
>>
>
> I find it highly ambiguous, and while I tend to agree with you that
> probably the majority of nude images on Commons should be deleted due to
> lack of explicit and verifiable declarations of consent, I do not feel the
> wording quoted above would be helpful in persuading others of that. (In
> addition, the absence of a clearly documented process for obtaining and
> expressing consent doesn't help. Again, something that anybody can do, very
> little technical knowledge required.)
>
> "Consent" is a verb that is only useful in its transitive form. It is
> meaningless to say "the subject consents." Consents *to what*? "...for
> the use of such media" is not specific. Also, "we feel" is not language
> that lends itself to strong project-specific policies.
>
> -Pete
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>
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