On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Russavia 
> <russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Would you like the board to adopt and amend a resolution based purely
>> upon the opinions of editors who are members of this mailing list, or
>> do you intend to open it up to discussion for the wider, including the
>> Commons, community?
>
>
> Most definitely the former. Board resolutions are not meant to reflect
> community consensus, but guide it.
>

It's not that clear-cut. Again, I think the TOU rewrite is a good example
of how the community and the board can make progress together effectively.
A great deal of wisdom and passion resides in the global community that has
brought Wikimedia to the point it is at today, alongside more frustrating
elements. But in this case, I would say something initiated on this list
(by one part of the community) and improved upon by others, in other
venues, would be a great way to draft a proposed resolution for the board's
consideration.

>
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Pete,
>> >
>> > Please suggest a revised wording that you feel would be clearer. Then
>> we can
>> > request that the board adopt it and amend the resolution accordingly.
>> >
>> > Andreas
>>
>
If there's some desire to pursue this, I will gladly participate. I agree,
this would be an excellent project, and I'd be proud to be part of it.
Crafting the right language to avoid undesirable consequences will take
work, and I don't know enough to do it by myself. But I do think that
encompassing more than merely "identifiable" subjects is an important
factor to keep in mind, in addition to more specificity around what the
model is expected to "consent" to.

-Pete
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