"Well, if you want to write articles about French women painters, go ahead. But you shouldn't do it just because you want more articles about women on Wikipedia."
Why not? Nobody says this to the people who write articles about trains or video games. On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > I find the entire premise of this essay to be a bit misguided. Do we really > need to worry about tamping down the trickle of feminists editing art > articles on Wikipedia? There are easily ten times more men's rights > activists editing Wikipedia than feminists, and they actively organize > off-wiki to subvert NPOV. Why does no one care about that? Why not write a > blog post about men's rights activists running meat-puppet campaigns and > trying to white-wash articles about rape and domestic violence? If anything, > having a handful of feminists on Wikipedia might serve to keep them in > check. > > "Also, don't revise existing articles because you feel there is a male bias > in them." > This is terrible advice. For example, I significantly revised the "dating" > article a few years ago because it had an obvious male bias and seemed to be > intended only for a male audience. Why should people leave articles with a > male bias? NPOV doesn't mean leave articles with whatever bias they started > with. > > Also, I find it strange that your article implies that feminists can't write > from a neutral point of view. Feminism is about equality of the sexes and > opposing stereotypes and biases. It isn't about making women look better > than men or excluding the male point of view. I think feminists make great > Wikipedia editors. Look at Adrianne Wadewitz: 37 featured articles! I would > gladly take 1000 more Adrianne Wadewitzs as Wikipedia editors! > > Kaldari > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:23 AM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> nice wiki-splaining - the problem with your thesis: >> "What we don't need, however, is more feminists." >> >> is labeling and the double standard of "civility enforcement" >> >> as Djembayz said at Signpost: >> "the rules on Wikipedia are not clear, the enforcement on disruptive >> behavior is arbitrary or non-existent. Online game players, vulgarians, and >> sea-lioning randos who congregate here can be as disruptive and outrageous >> as they wish, with impunity. They don't care, because they don't have to." >> >> until the systemic bias in "civility enforcement" is dealt with, your >> thesis will be a dead letter with me. >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Sydney Poore <sydney.po...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> This part of the "we" of Wikipedians...me..wants feminist to edit >>> Wikipedia, as well as people who want to solely add articles about women. >>> >>> What I ask of you is to stand back so that those of us who are interested >>> in creating an inclusive editing community can do so without being hindered. >>> Because there is simply no way that Wikipedia's content can be neutral >>> without a large and inclusive body of people creating it. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> Sydney Poore >>> User:FloNight >>> >>> On Apr 9, 2015 10:27 AM, "Lukas Mezger (Wikipedia)" >>> <lukas.mez...@wikipedia.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear readers of the gender gap mailing list, >>>> >>>> My name is Lukas and I am a German Wikipedian (User:Gnom). >>>> >>>> I recently wrote a blog post on Wikipedia and feminism and was >>>> encouraged to share it with this list. >>>> >>>> As I am very new to the gender gap debate, I would appreciate your >>>> comments. >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Lukas Mezger >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>>> visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
