Jim,
Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I didn't mean to take issue with the
original post (which raises a worthy point), merely to introduce another
dimension that I learned about only recently, which came as a surprise.
It's possible that the NY Times does a good job of maintaining a clear line
between editorial and paid content; but the Boston Globe, which is owned by
the NY Times, does not do that very well, and I suspect that is common of
"medium-large" papers.
Gender bias in obituaries is a worthy topic unto itself. Just wanted to
establish that not everything most people think of as an "obituary" is
actually an obituary.
Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:32 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote:
> pete,
> the article linked is listing NYTimes, WashPost, and LATimes.
> not the paid notices
> there seems to be no process to systematically incorporate these, even
> when they provide strong support for notability.
>
> cheers
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> At least in the USA, we have to be cautious about "what is an obituary."
>> Newspapers also run "death notices" which (both in print and online) look
>> much like obituaries, but are actually paid advertisements. I'm not even
>> certain that the terminology ("obituary"=editorial, "death notice"=paid ad)
>> is consistent across news outlets, I'm just reflecting what I learned from
>> the specific papers I dealt with after my dad died.
>>
>> Any "systemic bias" in death notices would therefore consider a much
>> bigger/more complex system than simply the editorial powers-that-be. You'd
>> have to also consider what drives families to pay for death notices for
>> some people more than others.
>>
>> -Pete
>> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:07 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> some obits are not behind paywall.
>>> a reference to do list would make good work.
>>>
>>> maybe we could get Mietchen or Magnus to make an automated list article
>>> / category "list of people with obituaries"
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Neotarf <neot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Links to lists in major news outlets (NYT, BBC, LA TImes, Toronto Star,
>>>> etc.) along with commentary on gender bias in obits:
>>>>
>>>> http://forward.com/sisterhood/330631/for-women-gender-bias-continues-even-in-death/
>>>>
>>>> The three women listed in the article do have WP articles. It would
>>>> take some digging--paywalls, registration, etc,--to see if any of the other
>>>> women do not yet have articles.
>>>>
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