yes, i have been writing poetry bios for a while (and there is a bias in the historical data)
and transcribing on wikisource tends to be by book and not individual poem (that tends to be an older practice) the oclc metadata tends to be by book, so we may need some hand curation, since we have individual poems like a chapter, there is a page to link to. i have not done too many literature articles; they are harder to write, and require expertise; i kind of despaired meeting the Wadewitz standard maybe we should do an literature editathon? On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > You're right Lennart! It looks like I was limiting the query to only poems > which had the inception date set. I re-ran the queries and got: > > Poems by women: 1542 > Poems by men: 20072 > Ratio: 1:13 > > Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: 162 > Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: 992 > Ratio: 1:6 > > Those numbers look a bit more reasonable :) But still plenty of room for > improvement! Thanks for double-checking my work. > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < > l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Interesting. Thanks! >> >> >> I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that >> are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of >> Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >> List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems >> >> The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >> Success_is_Counted_Sweetes >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest>which has its >> own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was >> not listed on the Wikidata query >> poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by >> women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be. >> >> This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful >> term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Lennart Guldbrandsson >> >> 070 - 207 80 05 >> http://www.*elementx*.se <http://www.elementx.se> >> *Skriv som ett proffs <http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/>* - >> min senaste bok >> >> Kommande böcker <http://www.elementx.se/om-lennart/kommande-bocker/> | >> Tidigare >> böcker <http://www.elementx.se/tidigare-bocker/> >> Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg >> <http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62> >> >> @aliasHannibal <http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal> - på Twitter >> >> "*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri >> tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* >> <http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida>*. Det är vårt mål.*" >> Jimmy Wales >> ------------------------------ >> *Från:* Gendergap <gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> för Ryan >> Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> >> *Skickat:* den 11 maj 2017 07:16:26 >> *Till:* Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects >> *Ämne:* [Gendergap] the poem gap >> >> Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many >> poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query >> for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have >> articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata >> there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. >> This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I >> understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the >> domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? >> Anyway, just something to chew on. >> >> If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are: >> >> Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x >> Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq >> >> Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: >> http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak >> Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: >> http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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