On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote:

> maybe we should do an literature editathon?
>

Perhaps it's time for a Literature+Feminism editathon (to spin off from the
Art+Feminism theme).



> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> You're right Lennart! It looks like I was limiting the query to only
>> poems which had the inception date set. I re-ran the queries and got:
>>
>> Poems by women: 1542
>> Poems by men: 20072
>> Ratio: 1:13
>>
>> Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: 162
>> Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: 992
>> Ratio: 1:6
>>
>> Those numbers look a bit more reasonable :) But still plenty of room for
>> improvement! Thanks for double-checking my work.
>>
>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson <
>> l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting. Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that
>>> are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of
>>> Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>> List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems
>>>
>>> The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>> Success_is_Counted_Sweetes
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest>which has
>>> its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This
>>> poem was not listed on the Wikidata query
>>> poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by
>>> women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be.
>>>
>>> This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful
>>> term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
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>>> Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many
>>> poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query
>>> for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have
>>> articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata
>>> there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia.
>>> This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I
>>> understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the
>>> domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality?
>>> Anyway, just something to chew on.
>>>
>>> If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are:
>>>
>>> Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x
>>> Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq
>>>
>>> Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak
>>> Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl
>>>
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