Now this is strange. The person who created The Womanity Foundation back in October also created the article Yann Borgstedt <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yann_Borgstedt> which is apparently the guy who started the organization. The article passed a review by Articles for Creation back in 2011, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yann_Borgstedt but has just been nominated for deletion.
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Neotarf <neot...@gmail.com> wrote: > Looking at the discussion, it seems they are using the wrong notability > guideline, the first one, WP:COMPANY, which would be used for restaurants > or garage bands, instead of WP:NONPROFIT > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28organizations_and_companies%29#Non-commercial_organizations>, > further down the page. The page is rather confusing in the way it is > organized, but I don't see any other category that could be used for > political parties or organizations in the public interest. > > According to WP:NONPROFIT: > > *Non-commercial organizations* > > Organizations are usually notable if they meet *both* of the following > standards: > > - The scope of their activities is national or international in scale > - The organization has received significant coverage in multiple > reliable sources that are independent of the organization. > > So I have compiled a list of the Farsi-language sources at > https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/sources-for- > pakistan-women-muslim-league/ > > A total of 12 newspapers have published articles about Pakistan Women > Muslim League, including an interview with the founder. There are 11 > articles from Peshawar (local) sources, 2 from unidentified sources, and 3 > articles from sources from the capital in Islamabad, showing national > scope, as does the fact that the party is registered nationally. > > If there is not a consensus for an article, perhaps the information could > be added to another article, I see there is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > List_of_political_parties_in_Pakistan#Minor_or_regional_parties although > I suppose you would have to nominate all the other small parties for > deletion as well, or incorporate them into the list. > > I really have to wonder if this is a good use of our time. While I > appreciate Ryan's efforts in bringing this issue here, it took me literally > hours to identify these articles to establish notability, on a topic that > should already be obviously notable. Shouldn't anyone be able to go to > Wikipedia to find information about another country's political system. > > On a similar note, I see The Womanity Foundation > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Womanity_Foundation> nominated for > deletion and the person who started the article referred to as "an SPA". > Welcome to Wikipedia. A quick google shows a huge number of reliable > sources. https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Womanity+Foundation&ie= > utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=The+Womanity+Foundation&tbm=nws Aren't they supposed to > check that before they nominate it for deletion? Can the new community > culture group help with that? > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Neotarf <neot...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here is the archived article: "Women’s political party launched Pakistan >> Women Muslim League (PWML)" January 6, 2014 http://archive.is/V3Vpk >> >> Party registered with PEC Pakistan Election Commission: >> https://books.google.com/books?id=RROXCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA280&dq= >> Pakistan+Women+Muslim+League,+Rubina+Shaheen&hl=en&sa=X&ved= >> 0ahUKEwicvJSP19zUAhWFOz4KHQK6BMAQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=Pakist >> an%20Women%20Muslim%20League%2C%20Rubina%20Shaheen&f=false >> >> Cabinet list and photo of oath-taking ceremony >> http://pwml.pk/index.php/cabinets/188-oath-taking-cermony >> >> Official website (English and Urdu): http://pwml.pk/ >> >> See also Maimoonah Khan https://www.facebook.com/pwml.islamabad/ and >> Urdu https://www.facebook.com/pwmlp, FB profile: >> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012757092035&fref=ts There >> seem to be new internal elections underway by email starting 3 days ago. >> >> Twitter https://twitter.com/chrpersonpwml?lang=en >> >> YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCLP3T3yn95nLlP1DLY4LBQ >> Another Youtube Rubina Shaheen speaking in Peshawar >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X1eatiEeeo >> >> Rubina Shaheen introduces herself as primary school teacher >> https://www.worldpulse.com/en/community/users/rubina-shaheen#stories >> >> Linked in: https://pk.linkedin.com/in/rubina-shaheen-22a252100 >> >> There is also a Rubina Shaheen Wattoo, daughter of Manzoor Wattoo, >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzoor_Wattoo who seems to have won some >> elections, http://www.pap.gov.pk/index.php/members/profile/en/19/647 and >> may be notable, but by the photographs this does not appear to be the same >> person. Disambig page? >> >> There was a Rubina/Robina Shaheen who ran in the 2013 election for PK-5 >> Peshawar KPK Assembly seat, but the party affiliation (PML-Q) (probably The >> Pakistan Muslim League or Quaid e Azam Group, Urdu: پاکستان مسلم لیگ ق) >> does not look right (s/b PWML), so probably not the same one. >> https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/amp/432028-all-women-cand >> idates-from-kp-lost-election-by-huge-marginshttp://www. >> electionpakistani.com/ge2013/pk/PK-5.htm >> >> There was a fair amount of coverage of PWML in Urdu sources here, from >> their official website, unfortunately these are photos of newspaper >> clippings and not digitized. http://pwml.pk/index.php/home- >> en/10-icetheme/features/245-news-media >> >> This may be the only women's party in the world, as Pakistan has seats >> reserved for women (although it is not the only country to do this) >> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/may/09/pakista >> n-female-election-candidates-confidence >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> >> wrote: >> >>> The article for the first women's political party in Pakistan is about >>> to be deleted, unless someone can find some sources for it.[1][2] >>> Urdu-language speakers would be especially useful for this effort. >>> >>> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League >>> 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletio >>> n/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >
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