Hi Craig, Thanks for your detailed explanations. I will be woring towards the improvement you suggested in the next releases.
Sincerely, He On 2023/06/01 04:57:57 Craig Russell wrote: > Hi He, > > I'd just like to emphasize that the mission of Apache is to create software, > which implies that creating releases is a primary goal. That's why we spend > so much effort on getting it right. A release is an act of the Foundation, > which is only possible if the PMC members vote on releases. (In the > incubator, only IPMC votes are binding) Votes need to be based on review of > release contents. > > From your closing [RESULT][VOTE] message people might get the incorrect > understanding that only three people voted. > > A few things that might improve your process in light of the importance of > reviewing and voting: > > 1. When you call for a vote on the dev list, everyone who votes should tell > what they checked. I'd suggest adding a checklist as part of the vote email > for people to tell exactly what they reviewed. You can find many examples on > the general list. > > 2. Once voting is done on the dev list, and there are no show-stopper issues, > you can summarize the voting. Many times, your mentors and PPMC members who > are also IPMC members will vote +1 and you might have three or more binding > +1 votes to be done. > > 3. If you still need more binding votes, you can explicitly ask your mentors > to vote before closing the vote on the dev list. > > 4 .Once voting concludes on the dev list, you can summarize the vote on the > general incubator list and tell whether you have enough binding votes. > > 5. Once you have at least three +1 binding votes (from IPMC members) you > should close the vote. As long as the release artifacts have not changed > since the dev list vote, your should include votes from the dev list voting > as well as the general list vote. In this case, it looks like the vote tally > would be: > > Binding +1 votes: > - Gordon > - Felix Cheung > - Wenli Zhang > > Non-binding +1 votes: > Pei Wang > Yuan Zhuang > Shaojun Wang > > No other votes. > > 6. I hope this will help everyone to understand that there was a vote on the > dev list and then another vote on the general list which resulted in a > successful vote to release. > > Congratulations, > Craig > > > On May 31, 2023, at 18:57, He Sun <h...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Craig, > > > > It is an honor to receive your comments about Teaclave. I did not quit get > > you though. I would appreciate it if you could explain more about your > > concerns while other projects also have the same conditions you descirbed > > above. > > > > According to my understanding about the Apache way, partly from > > https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html, the PPMC members and > > committers have to vote on Podling dev list. In our case, the vote thread > > is https://lists.apache.org/thread/nqzllmgqcozj5twg61wl085v3xo93pz2. Most > > of the commiters have subscribed the dev list and I will also remind them > > after a vote is started in different ways. > > > > I am not one of the other committers, so I do not know why they do not vote > > again on incubator general list. Maybe some of them do not even subscribe > > the mail list. > > > > Best, > > He > > > > On 2023/05/31 13:10:58 Craig Russell wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm a bit concerned that there are 19 PPMC members and six additional > >> committers and none of them voted on the release. > >> > >> Voting on releases should be a regular exercise for all developers. Is > >> there some reason that only mentors voted? > >> > >> Regards, > >> Craig > >> > >>> On May 30, 2023, at 20:20, He Sun <h...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello everyone, > >>> > >>> The vote has passed with 3 binding +1 votes. The vote PASSED with 3 > >>> binding +1, 0 non-binding +1 and 0 -1 votes. > >>> > >>> Binding +1 votes: > >>> - Gordon > >>> - Felix Cheung > >>> - Wenli Zhang > >>> > >>> Vote thread: > >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/5h8zd2chnj6bo262wx1sg6df0z1rsrgc > >>> > >>> Thank you everyone for your feedback and help with this Teaclave release. > >>> I will be working on publishing the artifacts of Apache Teaclave > >>> (incubating) v0.5.1. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> He > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >> > >> Craig L Russell > >> c...@apache.org > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > Craig L Russell > c...@apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
