On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:53:37 -0500, McKown, John 
<jmck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote:

>Just to shame the z/OS developers, z/VM already supports the HMC resident 
3270 emulator. It would be really nice if z/OS would get around to supporting 
this as well. It could possibly eliminate the need for an outboard 3270 for 
IPL'ing. Once IPL'ed we use both SDSF and SMCS consoles to actually monitor 
the systems.
>
John,

Lets be clear about something -- z/OS developers don't get to do whatever 
they feel like -- they develop what the business side of the house tells us 
that our customers want. And the business side of the house finds out what 
customers want (and are willing to pay for) from requirements, coming either 
through requests from individual customers or from organizations like SHARE or 
customer councils such as the zBLC.

The fact of the matter is that there has been to my knowledge no requirement 
submitted requesting that we support the 3270 interface to the HMC. I'd 
encourage you and others to submit such a requirement. You should also 
consider that any such requirement will be pitted against other high-priority 
work, such as making 64-bit usable.

So give us a break -- we took enough of a look at the 3270 interface to the 
HMC a couple of years ago (when zVM first did their support) that we have an 
idea how to do it -- it'll cost roughly what the SMCS support cost -- but its 
not going to get done unless you all ask for it and rank it higher than other 
things that you want.

W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development

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