"z/OS Explorer is an IBM product. The Macro 4 product is z/Explorer and does 
not rely on FTP or SDSF for its data set or JES spool features." 

Thanks
Keith

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Of Rob Schramm
Sent: 17 April 2015 06:34
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Subject: Re: A Total Eclipse of the Spool

AFAIK z/OS explorer uses ftp to interface with JES for retrieving output.

Rob Schramm
On Apr 13, 2015 6:56 AM, "Steve Austin" <steve.aus...@macro4.com> wrote:

> Hello Ed,
> Do you use any Macro 4 products (Tubes, DumpMaster, TraceMaster, 
> InSync, to name a few)?
> If you do then our z/Explorer Eclipse offering is free to use. It 
> provides access to z/OS datasets and Unix files, allows jobs to be 
> submitted and the JES spool to be viewed without SDSF as a pre-req, 
> and it even has a 3270 emulator. Please contact your local Macro 4 or 
> UNICOM rep who will be only too happy to assist. If you don't use any 
> of our products then I am sure they can help you if you cannot find an 
> alternative resolution.
> Regards
> Keith Banham
> R&D Manager
> Macro 4 Ltd
>
>
> Thanks
> Keith Banham
> Manager and Lead Engineer
> Research and Development
> Macro 4 Limited
>
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Ed Long
> Sent: 12 April 2015 03:47
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: A Total Eclipse of the Spool
>
> I have been tasked with deploying Data Studio, the DB2 no charge 
> offering in the IBM Eclipse product set. z/OS, CICS and IMS explorers 
> round out the no charge offerings.
> The target audience is not the long time, old time, 3270 types, but 
> the short time, new time Java, C# types who need to access z/OS data 
> or resources sometimes. They are not going to go through a 12 week 
> master the mainframe course since 90% of their work is off host.
> I can get Data Studio working, even sort of compatibly with z/OS 
> explorer. At least both of these 2 will be deployed together.
> I can get z/OS explorer to submit jcl, a requirement for some database 
> activities envisioned. Its builtin sysout retrieval function requires 
> SDSF and fairly heavy RACF configuration work.
> However, we don't have SDSF; we have IOF. None of the necessary 
> JES/RACF stuff has been set up, even if IOF supports the function, to 
> get z/OS explorer to download the sysout. While SDSF and doing the 
> configuration stuff is the obvious answer, getting there would take an 
> unplanned major effort.
> My question: What other options do I have to be able to retrieve 
> listings from within Eclipse?
> For specific use cases, we could write reports to datasets and then 
> use the z/OS explorer to browse the dataset. This approach would mean 
> the listing would be unavailable but any reports would be.
> We can assume that their jcl will be comparatively simple (Less than 
> 10 steps and much of it generated and heavily reliant on procedures).
> I've been considering FTP which has a JES interface.
> For phase 1 of this activity we assume there might be 100 target 
> developers.
> Comments and suggestions most appreciated.
>
> Edward Long
>
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