Hi Bernhard,
I plan to upgrade my OS X to Yosemite.
Can you confirm that KiCad will build properly under OS X 10.10?

Is there anything that I need to be aware of when upgrading the toolchain?

Any advice is welcome as I am nowhere near an OS X guru.

Regards,
Jean-Paul
AC9GH

On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier <stegma...@sw-systems.de> 
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I would change things in a way that the builtin CMAKE_OSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET 
> variable of CMake is used everywhere and that it has to be set during 
> configuration.
> So, everybody can set things as he/she wants…
> 
> The only thing that everyone has to take care is that all dependencies are 
> built wit matching settings… but that’s something that cannot be tackled by 
> KiCad build process anyway.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> 
>> On 16.11.2014, at 17:27, Adam Wolf <adamww...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Awesome work folks!
>> 
>> 1) I think it's silly to try to debug this further if I can fix it by 
>> setting a package for 10.7 and newer.
>> 
>> 2) I believe 10.6 no longer gets security updates as of Feb.  Do we really 
>> need to make one for 10.6?
>> 
>> My gut feelings says I should make my packages for 10.7 and newer, and if 
>> people complain and want a package for 10.6, maybe investigate making one 
>> then.  I don't know if any of the devs have a 10.6 machine to test on--I 
>> certainly don't!
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> (This may be the last blocker bug of any difficulty.  Docs and libraries 
>> included are the last two I know of, but they will be straightforward.  
>> Great work!)
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2014 5:10 AM, "Bernhard Stegmaier" <stegma...@sw-systems.de> 
>> wrote:
>> Yes, sounds reasonable… I was wrong about 10.8, libc++ seems to be there 
>> since 10.7.
>> 
>> I found a report of one guy having problems with a binary linked against 
>> libstdc++ because some system libs pulled in libc++.
>> He was able to find out the exact class/type which caused the problem.
>> He reported it to Apple, it was considered a bug because it should be 
>> compatible, and it got fixed quite some while later.
>> 
>> Doing the same will be quite painful I guess, because we have so many 
>> (foreign) things using C++… wxWidgets, boost, etc.
>> So, I guess the easiest way to fix this for now is to ensure everything is 
>> built with the same min version (or standard C++ lib I guess).
>> 
>> Moreover… I guess that at some point in time Apple probably will drop 
>> libstdc++ support anyway… so the effort of providing in worst case two 
>> packages (one for <10.7 and another for >10.7) will be much less than trying 
>> to fix that now.
>> 
>> That’s something that has most impact on Adam and the upcoming automated 
>> builds...
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bernhard
>> 
>> On 16.11.2014, at 10:43, Garth Corral <gcor...@abode.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Interesting.  When I had replied in the past that I was unable to 
>> > reproduce this, I had been building with a local patch that set 
>> > macosx-version-min to 10.7 for everything.  When I read this I tried 
>> > building again without that patch and sure enough, red blob.  When I 
>> > rebuilt with version-min set to 10.7 it went away again.
>> >
>> > Garth
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Nov 16, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier 
>> >> <stegma...@sw-systems.de> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi OSX guys,
>> >>
>> >> do you still see the "red blob bug” in latest revisions (since yesterday)?
>> >> I still had it in all the builds I made, the last revision I built was 
>> >> 5263, and it was in there.
>> >>
>> >> When I switched to external boost for the avhttp tests (this build has 
>> >> the red blob problem) I noticed that my boost (from MacPorts) was 
>> >> compiled against libc++, whereas wxWidgets and KiCad itself was built 
>> >> against libstdc++.
>> >> This is how it is forced in KiCad CMake (via "—mmacosx-min-version" which 
>> >> implicitly sets used C++ standard library) and in the wxWidgets 
>> >> configuration I use.
>> >>
>> >> Although common sense seems to be “if it compiles/links fine, it will 
>> >> work” I know from problems at work that mixing standard C++ libraries in 
>> >> one binary can lead to very weird problems. Mixing libs is often not 
>> >> obvious, because different versions can be pulled in by any indirect 
>> >> library dependency in the whole dependency chain.
>> >>
>> >> So, I pulled to head yesterday and made some small changes to build 
>> >> everything (KiCad and wxWidgets) with minimum OSX version 10.9 which 
>> >> selects libc++… just to see what happens.
>> >> Built fine, I did my usual tests and I was quite surprised that the red 
>> >> blob problem was gone!
>> >>
>> >> So, can anyone confirm
>> >> (1) if problem is still there with latest revision?
>> >> (2) it goes away if you rebuild KiCad & wxWidgets and change every 
>> >> “-mmacosx-min-version=10.5” in KiCad CMake files to something more recent 
>> >> (probably 10.9 or 10.10, AFAIK libc++ was default starting with 10.8) and 
>> >> remove any "-stdlib=libstdc++” (it used when configuring wxWidgets if you 
>> >> use the supplied script)?
>> >>
>> >> If it is confirmed that this is due to mixing libc++/libstdc++ I will 
>> >> change build process in a way that you can specify which OSX version is 
>> >> targeted…
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Bernhard
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