What? ... Is there on ONE forum about Java, Scala, Spring, Rail etc? ... did all Java forums needed James Gosling approval ? .. Come on .. So yes people can talk about it make they own wikis,forums,blogs ... internet is free you know. I have tons of respect for David and this community and I don't need to write this down here but IMO let people know about Lift & Scala by whatever means. It doesn't have to be a single information channel.
I hate when I see such a dictatorial attitude about things ... Br's, Marius On Aug 30, 4:20 pm, Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com> wrote: > Once again, I don't see how you can discuss it until you know that David's > fine with it. > Personally I haven't read any concrete benefit (I don't know what "take the > load off" or "get more sites out there" mean practically) that isn't > available now between the list an the wiki---certainly not to outweigh the > very clear disadvantage to both posters, who have that much less of a chance > getting an answer in any one place and may have to ask twice, as well as to > "experts" who can either only monitor one site and leave the other site with > fewer "experts"; or be inconvenienced to monitor both. > How many members are there of the Google Group currently? And what percentage > ever offer answers? Regularly? The lift community is not as large as many > other communities. Does Scala itself have other forums besides its own lists? > If so what is their state? Certainly the Scala community is much larger than > lift's. (Maybe you should make your forum be a Scala forum, and have a lift > category... But again, I think it's only fair to ask lift's mastermind first!) > > ------------------------------------- > > marius d.<marius.dan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > My 2 cents if I may ... > > Although I love this list and this is the official Lift list and > support I think it is important to also have other wiki's, forums etc. > out there. Personally I don't see this as a community split. More and > more people are becoming pretty knowledgeable with Lift & Scala > sharing information about Lift on other channels ... is nothing wrong > with that .. .quite the opposite. In fact this may take some of the > load on this list as community grows. > > Would be nice though to have a central place where all other wiki's/ > forums can be found. For instance serious forums/wikis could be > references from lift web-site or even fromthis list in the header > section. > > Br's, > Marius > > On Aug 30, 8:37 am, Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The lift community is not huge. It's David Pollak's brainchild, and I don't > > see how you can discuss creating a forum (after the fact) without his > > okaying it. How can you compare it to an IRC? A forum fills much of the > > same purpose as the list, much more than IRC. > > Some of the advantages mentioned are better solved by a Wiki. (Your > > volunteering to help with it is much appreciated.) > > Searchability - sounds like a bug on Google's part, no? Is there a Group > > for discussing Google Groups? In any case, it's addressed by services like > > MarkMail. Isn't Nabbles searchable? > > Duplicate questions - forums don't completely solve this. Searchability > > would help, as will the Wiki as it grows. > > Stickies - Google Groups doesn't allow stickies? > > Syntax highlighting/formatting; organization - the way I see it, you can > > draw a continuum with IRC being the most transient and a Wiki etc. the most > > permanent, with a mailing list, a Google Groups mailng list, and a forum > > falling in between, in increasing order of permanence/organizability. As > > you go from left to right you get more of these features, but a forum is > > still less than a Wiki. On the other hand as you go right to left you get > > more "dynamic"/on the fly--you just write a question without worrying about > > organization or formatting. > > Does that make sense? > > > ------------------------------------- > > > Xavi Ramirez<xavi....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I applaud Artem's initiative! > > > The mailing list has undoubtedly been an extremely helpful resource. > > That said, a mailing lists in general have several short comings: > > > - Hard to search through > > - Many duplicate questions > > - No stickies > > - No syntax highlighting and few formatting options > > - Little to no message organization > > - Few moderation tools > > > A forum could be a nice way to address these issues, so it might be > > worth a try. Also I think introducing a forum is anymore likely to > > splinter than an IRC chat room. > > > Just my two cents. > > > -Xavi > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Timothy Perrett<timo...@getintheloop.eu> > > wrote: > > > > Agreed (and +1) - Personally I actually prefer mailing lists full stop > > > because it involves no web site trawling to get to the topics one is > > > after... > > > > Cheers, Tim > > > > On 30/08/2009 01:20, "TylerWeir" <tyler.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I'm not really sure how splintering the community is going to help. > > >> I feel the google group has been fine. > > > >> On Aug 29, 6:59 pm, Artem <art...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> Hey! > > > >>> I stumbled on Lift a couple weeks ago and have been messing around > > >>> with it a lot! I am a Ruby on Rails programmer and it seems like Ruby > > >>> is doing a fine job serving the web programmers community. Recently, > > >>> I read an article about Twitter running RoR and it crashing after a > > >>> while. They decided to switch to Scala because it's scalable unlike > > >>> Ruby. I am planning on developing a large website that will require > > >>> lots of CPU/Database usage and I was wondering if Scala/Lift is the > > >>> way to do it? > > > >>> I'm not a fan of Google Groups, they are not very user friendly, so I > > >>> created a forum specially for Lift developers that like to discuss > > >>> topics about the Scala/Lift programming language. If you want to help > > >>> start the forum and post a couple topics I would greatly appreciate > > >>> it. The link ishttp://www.liftforum.com. It's a new forum so there > > >>> isn't much content on it yet. > > > >>> Thanks. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. 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