On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 22:22:38 +0300 shlomo solomon <shlomo.solo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Google/Gmail has decided to drive me crazy and I hope someone can > help. > > Some background: > 1 - my gmail address is shlomo.solo...@gmail.com > 2 - all my mail is forwarded to my domain shl...@the-solomons.net > 3 - For MANY years, I've used Claws mail (and before that KMail) as my > client because I HATE webmail in general and Gmail specifically. > 4 - Claws accesses my mail over POP3 and SMTP > 5 - to allow this, I have Gmail set up to allow POP access and my > Google account set up to allow "Less secure app access" (Google-speak > for anything not provided or controlled by Google). > 6 - This setup has worked for at least 20 years and I've made no > recent changes so there's no OBVIOUS reason for it not to work now. > > BUT, in the past few weeks, Gmail has randomly refused to let Claws > access my mail. Sometimes this lasts for a short time and sometimes > for hours or even a day or more. > > The Claws log shows: > > * Account 'GMail': Connecting to POP3 server: pop.gmail.com:995... > [21:49:25] POP< +OK Gpop ready for requests from 89.237.110.180 > s20mb165349719wra > [21:49:25] POP> USER shlomo.solo...@gmail.com > [21:49:25] POP< +OK send PASS > [21:49:25] POP> PASS ******** > [21:49:25] POP< -ERR [AUTH] Web login required: > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 > *** error occurred on authentication > *** Authentication failed. Hmmm, why require a **WEB** login? Why not just a POP login? [snip] > And as I wrote above, after a while, the problem solves itself. It's intermittent. This makes things even more difficult. > > And one more thing - I have additional Gmail accounts with the same > setup and Gmail DOES allow Claws mail access, while denying access to > my main account. So that's also weird. I'd start by exploiting the differences between this one and the Gmail accounts that never display this symptom. Do you access it differently? Is the account set up differently on the Google side? Just keep trying to exploit the differences. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. It's easy to access email by IMAP instead of POP. That may or may not fix it, but either way, it gives you some info. I don't know how you're asking Gmail for your email, but if your email client is doing the asking, this could be a problem in your email client or its setup. Every 3 minutes I have fetchmail grab my Gmail mail (along with my Troubleshooters.Com mail and Earthlink and who knows what else). Every once in a while the fetchmail log shows a failure, but not enough to be a problem. You might try having fetchmail do the fetching, send it straight to procmail to sort into folders for your email client (or if you do it like I do, to your local Dovecot server.) All email clients suck. I use Claws-Mail. Claws sucks less than most, but it still sucks. I try to move as much computation as possible out of the email client. Dovecot works perfectly, month after month, year after year. Via IMAP, I use Claws Mail as a window into my Dovecot folders. SteveT Steve Litt March 2020 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb _______________________________________________ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
