On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:43:51 +0300 shlomo solomon <shlomo.solo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see what you're doing, but don't see how this would solve my > problem. Moving from pop3 to imap would not change the fact that > Google is not allowing me to login. It takes about 10 minutes to make the switch, and if necessary 10 minutes to switch it back. If it changes the symptom, then your mental model of how things really are (as opposed to their design or how a sane person would design it) was inaccurate. In other words, the bug could be bizarre, and if that's true, 10 minutes is the cheapest possible way to find out. I wish I had a dime for every time somebody said "it can't be that, that won't change it" when I recommended a diagnostic test, and then the diagnostic test changes it in an unexpected way. > And most probably, Ori is correct > in his opinion that the problem is the login to Google services - not > to pop3. > > Or do you think that procmail would be allowed to login where claws is > not allowed? That would be fetchmail grabbing your mail from the server. Fetchamail grabs it, then hands it off, on your local machine, to procmail to be sorted or /dev/nulled. In answer to your question, if Claws is buggy when it pulls pop, then swapping in fetchmail would fix the problem. Or, if the problem is with Google's pop server but not their imap server, then switching to imap would fix the problem. And if the problem doesn't get fixed, you ruled out some things. > > Just to remind you of what I wrote in my original post - this has > worked fine for many years and since nothing has changed on my end, I > have no reason to think that pop3 is the problem. That's my point. The past few weeks you've randomly gotten this error when pulling email. It's an intermittent problem, logic is the usual victim of intermittent problem, and it's often best to use an alternate set of debugging tactics when dealing with intermittents. What I'd do in your situation is: 1) Make a Claws folder just to contain downloaded stuff. 2) Temporarily configure fetchmail to retrieve from the offending gmail account and send the messages to procmail. 3) Configure procmail to place all messages in your new folder 4) Look for evidence of login failures In case you're using MH folders with your Claws, here are some docs on how to get procmail to drop messages into MH folders: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/mh-e/Procmail.html https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/336420/how-do-you-use-procmail-mda-to-deliver-files-to-be-read-by-mh https://linux.die.net/man/5/procmailex http://www.cs.utah.edu/~clake/soc_mh.html SteveT Steve Litt March 2020 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb _______________________________________________ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
