Dear all, Gerle (Musica teusch, Nürnberg 1532) says explicitely: set the little and ring fingers of the right hand on the belly, not on the rose but a little behind it.
Kind regards Bernd Gesendet: Montag, 04. März 2019 um 09:01 Uhr Von: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> An: "Edward C. Yong" <edward.y...@gmail.com>, "Lisa Sass @muse" <muse314...@gmail.com> Cc: "Lute List" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Caravaggio There's no reason why the third finger should not be held on the belly - rather than the more conventional fourth. Indeed, some historical players (Kapsberger comes to mind) are recorded as only plucking with the thumb, first and second fingers. Further, it's not wholly unlikely that the painting shows a model who may not have had much, if any, real instruction on how to play the instrument - how many modern depictions of lutes (in ads etc) depict unlikely postures which are accepted by the general public (eg a current UK Building society TV ad) and even, amazingly, a print ad for a manufacturer of thirteen course and other lutes being played in what appears to be an unconventional manner MH On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 04:39:51 GMT, Lisa Sass @muse <muse314...@gmail.com> wrote: You're welcome! Towards the end, he gets into finger position. Plus, link to a followup article from ~2005 is at the very bottom. Sent from my TRS-80 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 22:09, Edward C. Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you! This may well have been it! > >> On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse <[2]muse314...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Was it David Van >> Edwards? [1][3][1]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> >> ~Lisa Sass >> Sent from my TRS-80 >> On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong <[2][4]edward.y...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK Lute >> Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute >> players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was likely a >> fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a >> compelling argument at the time. >> Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is >> available? >> Thanks in advance! >> Edward >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3][5][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. [6][3]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm >> 2. mailto:[7]edward.y...@gmail.com >> 3. [8][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > -- References 1. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 2. mailto:muse314...@gmail.com 3. [5]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 5. [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. [7]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 7. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 8. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
