Are you using the authentication that your ISP requires - either PAP or CHAP ?

On Thu, 04 May 2000, you wrote:
> OK, I'm not a real Linux geek...  yet.  I am a Mac user, and have been
> successfully using Macs for more than ten years, without any major
> problems.  But for professional reasons, I wanted to get into Linux, and
> chose Mandrake because it was supposed to be the simplest to get running.
> 
> 
> <rant>
> I see no need to have to edit files with cryptic commands when there are
> GUI interfaces that do the same thing.  So, to connect my computer to the
> Internet, I tried to use Kppp.  I am amazed that it does not work, and
> that the only way to get it to work seems to be to read a ton of Linux
> books and docs.
> 
> So, here's what happened.  First, following the instructions given in
> some bacis Linux books, and the Mandrake doc (as well as doc on web
> sites), I entered the necessary info in Kppp - account info, such as
> phone number, user name, password, etc.  I tried to connect.  Zip. 
> Computer tells me 
> 
> >May  3 14:22:52 localhost pppd[917]: The remote system is required to
> >authenticate itself but I couldn't find any secret (password) which would
> >let it use an IP address.
> 
> OK, this is wonderful.  All the doc says it is so easy...  Some kind
> souls tell me that I need to add the "noauth" argument.  OK, why do I
> need to do this?  I mean, why does it default to auth?
> 
> But when I try to do this, Computer tells me that I can only do it as
> root.  Now, all the docs and books say, don't use root unless you really
> need to.  But if I can't connect to the Internet as a normal user, I need
> to be root.  So I log in as root, and "noauth" and get the connection up.
>  The connection, and nothing more.
> 
> In spite of the fact that I have my ISPs DNS numbers correctly entered,
> nothing happens.  Computer is searching in the ether and cannot find any
> nameservers.  I try, on the advice of a kind soul on this list, to
> uncomment the lines in the resolv.conf file, to no avail.  
> 
> So, still no connection.
> 
> What gives?  If everyone else can get a connection up, is there something
> wrong with my installation or my computer?  If the books and docs show it
> is so easy, why I am having so many problems?  And this noauth thing -
> why do I have to add it, when, apparently, no one should need auth except
> in special cases?  
> 
> I'm a bit taken aback by some of the stuff I need to do to get this up
> and running.  Especially because I have been hired to write tutorials
> about Mandrake for a web site, and need to explain to others how to do
> these things.  Sure, most things work out ok, but when I see just how
> complicated it is to get a simple ppp connection, I am really shocked. 
> (BTW, it was actually much easier to get my Linux box networked with my
> Mac over AppleTalk; definately a power user thing, while a ppp connection
> is really a basic).
> 
> </rant>
> 
> So, can anyone help?
> 
> 
> Kirk
> 
> 
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